Note: this page was written around 13 years ago. I have just added a few more lines (April 29th 2023) and there have been many other updates. I could add some more as cat poison is a very big topic. It is still valid and it contains over 300 comments. At the time it was controversial and provocative.
The page is a little haphazard but I believe useful but don't come here to figure out how to poison cats. If you do that, you'll be an AH and possibly a criminal.
Aussie authorities are poisoners
The Australian authorities are the planet's biggest cat poisoners bar none. Yes, they like to poison feral cats with sausages chucked out of helicopters laced with 1080 poison (Sodium fluoroacetate) which kills slowly as I recall. And they've built a device which chucks poison over a feral cat or any animal that walks by. It is motion sensor activated. The cat licks their coat and bingo they're dead after a while. Highly immoral. But they don't mind. And they don't mind destroying the habitat of their small native marsupials and mammals despite the fact that they kill feral cats to try and protect them. Hypocritical comes to mind and thoughtless.
As I said below it is normally a crime to poison cats but not in Aussie land when it comes to feral cats which they detest. It is the same in Kiwi land.
Flea treatments
Flea treatments not infrequently poison cats because for example a cat owner may use a dog flea treatment on their cat. Bingo, another cat accidentally poisoned to death by their owner. Or they want to help their cat by administering painkillers. Human painkillers are plain killers when used on cats. Another accidental way to poison a cat.
Commercial cat foods
Commercial foods can also poison cats:
If a pet food manufacturer poisons cats due to negligence the cat's owner should be able to claim damages up to $10,000. This is not the case at present as cats are seen as chattels - items to possess like televisions.
Carpets and sofas
Yes, carpet protecting chemicals impregnated in carpets and fire-retardant chemicals in some furniture are both potentially poisonous to cats. Beware of them. They are a hidden and insidious danger.
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Important: It is a crime to poison a cat deliberately. This is cruel indefensible behavior. In the UK, the Animal Welfare Act 2006 applies. It states that a person found guilty of causing unnecessary suffering to an animal shall face a maximum six-month prison sentence plus a £20,000 fine. My message to anyone contemplating it is to stop and think, why? There is no good reason to do. It is pure cruelty. Ask yourself what is driving you to think in that way. If you are able to do this honestly you will realise that the motivation to harm should be directed at someone else not the innocent cat. In which case help is needed. Please bear in mind that responsibly for a cat lies with a person. If you are incensed by a cat's behavior ask if the cause is an irresponsible cat owner. It will always prove to be the case. In which case leave the cat alone and talk with the person instead. The cat is a victim of our behavior.
To all those people in the USA thinking about poisoning a cat, the laws are often very similar to the UK and animal cruelty is a crime in the USA as well. Punishment varies from state to state but can be as severe as here in the UK. See Cat Cruelty Laws in the USA (this link opens in a new window).
Important: A visitor has left a comment saying he has killed 14 domestic cats (about 30 comments down). He lives in Australia (surprise). He is almost certainly committing serious crimes. Please read the comment and if you know who he is please tell me by leaving a comment. I will then inform the police and local RSPCA.
For those few who are planning poisoning: why do people plan malicious cruelty to cats? I seems that they are bored, unable to cope, angry, damaged individuals who strike out against the world and in doing so pick on a vulnerable creature, a companion animal that provides a lot of comfort and pleasure to a lot of people.
The poisoned cats are domestic cats. Yet a lot of cat keepers are irresponsible in letting their cats roam widely risking injury and yes poisoning by ill people.
It is a combination of events. Cat poison is used by ill and bad people against cats that are sometimes poorly looked after. The best immediate solution is to keep cats in or under control and supervision plus to find out where the anti-freeze is or was (if this is caused by anti-freeze) and do some work on investigating the matter ourselves. We cannot rely on the police in this country. They don't even bother to investigate many crimes against people (e.g. burglary) and those against cats are going to be low priority. Some plants are cat poison: see House Plants Poisonous to a Cat (which contains pictures) and/or Plants Poisonous to Cats for a fuller list.
Cat poison - Update 9th Oct 2008 on antifreeze poisoning: if this is not an act of maliciousness (and I shouldn't presume that it is) then it could be carelessness but I find this a little hard to believe but perhaps I am being cynical. Apparently this last spate of cat poisonings may be due to people topping up their cars with anti-freeze and spilling some. It also means that cats are drawn to antifeeze. The number of cats that have been poisoned indicates that this is deliberate, however, and that the anti-freeze was in more than one place. Also you don't need to put antifreeze in modern cars. The water coolant rarely if ever needs topping up and has antifreeze in it from purchase. Antifreeze is ethylene glycol and it causes acute kidney disease.
The first and most important step is most likely to be to make your cat vomit (although this is not always the case). How to make a cat vomit is mentioned below. What appears to be an excellent advice service in the United States called the Animal Poison Control Center(new window) run by ASPCA tel (888) 426-4435 that I would have thought would be the first thing to do after trying to make your cat vomit (if sure that this is the right thing).
Fungi
One fungi that is not that uncommonly seen in badly managed homes that are poorly ventilated and damp might be black mold or toxic black mold. This is: stachybottys chartarum (also known as S. atra) is known as "black mold" or "toxic black mold," and is frequently associated with poor indoor air quality that arises after fungal growth on water-damaged building materials. It is known to produce trichothecene mycotoxins including satratoxins.
Stachybotrys is a genus of molds, or asexually-reproducing, filamentous fungi. Closely related to the genus Memnoniella, most Stachybotrys species inhabit materials rich in cellulose. (Verbatim from Wikipedia as allowed under license).
Rodent Poisons
Strychnine: Rat, mouse, mole poison and coyote bait contains strychnine. In America it can be bought as a purple, green or red dyed pellet. Symptoms appear within 2 hours:
Sodium Fluoroacetate: It is mixed with rat feeds. Very poisonous. Signs are sudden and include vomiting, agitation, staggering walk, convulsions, collapse. Induce vomiting. Take to vet for antidote.
Zinc Phosphide: Signs are laboured breathing, vomiting (blood), convulsions. No antidote.
Cat poison - update 9th October 2008: looking back on the massive pet food recall in the USA in 2007 it seems that the cause was a chemical called melamine that was added to wheat gluten that in turn is added to cat food to thicken the gravy. China recently went through a scandal about baby milk poisoning babies because it contained melamine. Apparently it adds protein to the product. It is also a human and cat poison. The cats poisoned suffered acute kidney disease. The wheat gluten was imported from China but I don't know if it originated in China. As far as I am aware the baby food products and the added melamine originated in China.
Wheat gluten is a meat substitute as it looks like meat. It is meat for vegetarians. Cats are obligate carnivores so I have no idea why it is in cat food. But then again lots of cat food is not meat or anything remotely like meat. If it was it would make it too expensive. I think cat food is too cheap. If it was more expensive it would be genuine cat food and the price might deter irresponsible cat keepers. See a lot more on melamine in cat food.
Cat poison - Update 21st October: Regarding the pet food poisoning referred to above, it would seem that damages have been agreed at $24 million. I suppose the USA pet food suppliers paid this and will try and sue the China suppliers of the poisoned ingredient for indemnity. Anyway, what is interesting about this is that the damages are for economic loss only. That is compensation for veterinarian bills, time spent away from work and property damage. The average claim is worth $1,500. There is no compensation for the greatest loss, the loss of ones dearly loved cat. This is called pain and suffering and is part of a claim in an action for injury arising out of negligence, for example, if one is suing on behalf of a person.
As I understand it the damages are limited to economic loss because a cat is considered a "chattel", an object considered no different to, for example, a washing machine. The law needs updating. This happens.
Update 3rd April 2009: Another case of cat poison being either carelessly left about (highly unlikely) or put out deliberately (far more likely, in my view). This latest incident happened in north Wales and Shropshire, UK. Three cats have died. The generous RSPCA inspector said that he wasn't sure if it was malicious or deliberate. But how often do we see antifreeze left lying around these days? Modern cars do not need antifreeze to be changed or renewed. This has almost got to be deliberate and as usual I am concerned that not enough effort is being made to catch the perpetrator or to investigate the matter. I wonder how many criminals actually get caught for poisoning or injuring cats? Very very few, I am sure.
Cat Poison Update 8-07-09: This is an imaginative way to poison a cat and commit a crime, cover the cat in motor oil and grease and wait to see if the cat tries to lick it off. This happened to two cats in Mattapan, Boston, USA. Fortunately, someone saw and rescued them. They were taken to the local MSPCA in Boston and washed clean. Never consider using cat poison. It is morally very wrong and a serious crime. Here is a street view of Mattapan:
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Something more positive for a change. The treatment for poisoning from antifreeze (ethylene glycol) is to induce vomiting and get to the vet as soon as possible. This has to be done quickly. The signs of toxicity, which happen suddenly are vomiting a walk that looks as if the cat is drunk, weakness, stupor and eventually coma. According to the Cat Owner's Home Veterinary Handbook you can induce vomiting by giving "hydrogen peroxide 3 percent: one teaspoon per 5 pounds of body weight (up to 3 teaspoons per dose) every 10 minutes or until the cat vomits This can be repeated 3 only 3 times. I would ask you vet about this and keep some in safe storage as inducing vomiting is often (but not always) the first and immediate step.
Cat Poison Update 29-8-09: In Wales, UK (see map below) a person seems to be poisoning cats with antifreeze. 8 cats have been put down with kidney failure the sign of anti-freeze poisoning. As it is summer there is no need to be dealing with anti-freeze right now so this seems like deliberate poisoning but tests are still being carried out. Anyone in the area with suspicions should please contact the police and/or RSPCA as soon as possible.
Cat Poison update 9th May 2010: Someone or persons are poisoning cats with antifreeze in the north Sheffield suburb of Walkley. More than 11 cats have been poisoned. It is said that someone is putting down cheap dry food laced with antifreeze. The food is shaped as bite sized stars and fish.
Antifreeze
Car antifreeze is a cat poison. It is probably one of the most common cat poisons. There is a spate of poisonings in Weston-super-Mare, UK, at the date of this post. All seem to have died from eating/drinking antifreeze. This has all the signs of being deliberate (but may be due to carelessness). Some people hate cats. A substantial number do in fact. A fair number of people search for the keyword "cat poison". That implies that some people are possibly thinking about poisoning cats. And some are trying to work out what might have poisoned their cat. Note: Go immediately to the vet if you suspect poisoning as speed can save lives. |
| Hydrogen peroxide can be used as instructed by your vet to make your cat vomit if she has been very recently poisoned by antifreeze. |
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Important: It is a crime to poison a cat deliberately. This is cruel indefensible behavior. In the UK, the Animal Welfare Act 2006 applies. It states that a person found guilty of causing unnecessary suffering to an animal shall face a maximum six-month prison sentence plus a £20,000 fine. My message to anyone contemplating it is to stop and think, why? There is no good reason to do. It is pure cruelty. Ask yourself what is driving you to think in that way. If you are able to do this honestly you will realise that the motivation to harm should be directed at someone else not the innocent cat. In which case help is needed. Please bear in mind that responsibly for a cat lies with a person. If you are incensed by a cat's behavior ask if the cause is an irresponsible cat owner. It will always prove to be the case. In which case leave the cat alone and talk with the person instead. The cat is a victim of our behavior.
To all those people in the USA thinking about poisoning a cat, the laws are often very similar to the UK and animal cruelty is a crime in the USA as well. Punishment varies from state to state but can be as severe as here in the UK. See Cat Cruelty Laws in the USA (this link opens in a new window).
Important: A visitor has left a comment saying he has killed 14 domestic cats (about 30 comments down). He lives in Australia (surprise). He is almost certainly committing serious crimes. Please read the comment and if you know who he is please tell me by leaving a comment. I will then inform the police and local RSPCA.
For those few who are planning poisoning: why do people plan malicious cruelty to cats? I seems that they are bored, unable to cope, angry, damaged individuals who strike out against the world and in doing so pick on a vulnerable creature, a companion animal that provides a lot of comfort and pleasure to a lot of people.
The poisoned cats are domestic cats. Yet a lot of cat keepers are irresponsible in letting their cats roam widely risking injury and yes poisoning by ill people.
It is a combination of events. Cat poison is used by ill and bad people against cats that are sometimes poorly looked after. The best immediate solution is to keep cats in or under control and supervision plus to find out where the anti-freeze is or was (if this is caused by anti-freeze) and do some work on investigating the matter ourselves. We cannot rely on the police in this country. They don't even bother to investigate many crimes against people (e.g. burglary) and those against cats are going to be low priority. Some plants are cat poison: see House Plants Poisonous to a Cat (which contains pictures) and/or Plants Poisonous to Cats for a fuller list.
Cat poison - Update 9th Oct 2008 on antifreeze poisoning: if this is not an act of maliciousness (and I shouldn't presume that it is) then it could be carelessness but I find this a little hard to believe but perhaps I am being cynical. Apparently this last spate of cat poisonings may be due to people topping up their cars with anti-freeze and spilling some. It also means that cats are drawn to antifeeze. The number of cats that have been poisoned indicates that this is deliberate, however, and that the anti-freeze was in more than one place. Also you don't need to put antifreeze in modern cars. The water coolant rarely if ever needs topping up and has antifreeze in it from purchase. Antifreeze is ethylene glycol and it causes acute kidney disease.
Other cat poisons and what to look out for and do
Cats are by nature curious and are liable, therefore, to ingest something poisonous and it is often not clear what it is as it might not be nearby. If the poison can be identified it will obviously help to decide treatment.The first and most important step is most likely to be to make your cat vomit (although this is not always the case). How to make a cat vomit is mentioned below. What appears to be an excellent advice service in the United States called the Animal Poison Control Center(new window) run by ASPCA tel (888) 426-4435 that I would have thought would be the first thing to do after trying to make your cat vomit (if sure that this is the right thing).
Fungi
One fungi that is not that uncommonly seen in badly managed homes that are poorly ventilated and damp might be black mold or toxic black mold. This is: stachybottys chartarum (also known as S. atra) is known as "black mold" or "toxic black mold," and is frequently associated with poor indoor air quality that arises after fungal growth on water-damaged building materials. It is known to produce trichothecene mycotoxins including satratoxins.
Stachybotrys is a genus of molds, or asexually-reproducing, filamentous fungi. Closely related to the genus Memnoniella, most Stachybotrys species inhabit materials rich in cellulose. (Verbatim from Wikipedia as allowed under license).
Rodent Poisons
Strychnine: Rat, mouse, mole poison and coyote bait contains strychnine. In America it can be bought as a purple, green or red dyed pellet. Symptoms appear within 2 hours:
- Agitation, apprehension
- seizures lasting about 60 seconds (in contrast, epileptic seizures last about 3 minutes)
- cat throws head back, turns blue because it can't breathe
- small stimulus such as noise causes a seizure
Sodium Fluoroacetate: It is mixed with rat feeds. Very poisonous. Signs are sudden and include vomiting, agitation, staggering walk, convulsions, collapse. Induce vomiting. Take to vet for antidote.
Zinc Phosphide: Signs are laboured breathing, vomiting (blood), convulsions. No antidote.
Cat poison - update 9th October 2008: looking back on the massive pet food recall in the USA in 2007 it seems that the cause was a chemical called melamine that was added to wheat gluten that in turn is added to cat food to thicken the gravy. China recently went through a scandal about baby milk poisoning babies because it contained melamine. Apparently it adds protein to the product. It is also a human and cat poison. The cats poisoned suffered acute kidney disease. The wheat gluten was imported from China but I don't know if it originated in China. As far as I am aware the baby food products and the added melamine originated in China.
Wheat gluten is a meat substitute as it looks like meat. It is meat for vegetarians. Cats are obligate carnivores so I have no idea why it is in cat food. But then again lots of cat food is not meat or anything remotely like meat. If it was it would make it too expensive. I think cat food is too cheap. If it was more expensive it would be genuine cat food and the price might deter irresponsible cat keepers. See a lot more on melamine in cat food.
Cat poison - Update 21st October: Regarding the pet food poisoning referred to above, it would seem that damages have been agreed at $24 million. I suppose the USA pet food suppliers paid this and will try and sue the China suppliers of the poisoned ingredient for indemnity. Anyway, what is interesting about this is that the damages are for economic loss only. That is compensation for veterinarian bills, time spent away from work and property damage. The average claim is worth $1,500. There is no compensation for the greatest loss, the loss of ones dearly loved cat. This is called pain and suffering and is part of a claim in an action for injury arising out of negligence, for example, if one is suing on behalf of a person.
As I understand it the damages are limited to economic loss because a cat is considered a "chattel", an object considered no different to, for example, a washing machine. The law needs updating. This happens.
Update 3rd April 2009: Another case of cat poison being either carelessly left about (highly unlikely) or put out deliberately (far more likely, in my view). This latest incident happened in north Wales and Shropshire, UK. Three cats have died. The generous RSPCA inspector said that he wasn't sure if it was malicious or deliberate. But how often do we see antifreeze left lying around these days? Modern cars do not need antifreeze to be changed or renewed. This has almost got to be deliberate and as usual I am concerned that not enough effort is being made to catch the perpetrator or to investigate the matter. I wonder how many criminals actually get caught for poisoning or injuring cats? Very very few, I am sure.
Cat Poison Update 8-07-09: This is an imaginative way to poison a cat and commit a crime, cover the cat in motor oil and grease and wait to see if the cat tries to lick it off. This happened to two cats in Mattapan, Boston, USA. Fortunately, someone saw and rescued them. They were taken to the local MSPCA in Boston and washed clean. Never consider using cat poison. It is morally very wrong and a serious crime. Here is a street view of Mattapan:
Map no longer works - sorry.
Something more positive for a change. The treatment for poisoning from antifreeze (ethylene glycol) is to induce vomiting and get to the vet as soon as possible. This has to be done quickly. The signs of toxicity, which happen suddenly are vomiting a walk that looks as if the cat is drunk, weakness, stupor and eventually coma. According to the Cat Owner's Home Veterinary Handbook you can induce vomiting by giving "hydrogen peroxide 3 percent: one teaspoon per 5 pounds of body weight (up to 3 teaspoons per dose) every 10 minutes or until the cat vomits This can be repeated 3 only 3 times. I would ask you vet about this and keep some in safe storage as inducing vomiting is often (but not always) the first and immediate step.
Cat Poison Update 29-8-09: In Wales, UK (see map below) a person seems to be poisoning cats with antifreeze. 8 cats have been put down with kidney failure the sign of anti-freeze poisoning. As it is summer there is no need to be dealing with anti-freeze right now so this seems like deliberate poisoning but tests are still being carried out. Anyone in the area with suspicions should please contact the police and/or RSPCA as soon as possible.
Cat Poison update 9th May 2010: Someone or persons are poisoning cats with antifreeze in the north Sheffield suburb of Walkley. More than 11 cats have been poisoned. It is said that someone is putting down cheap dry food laced with antifreeze. The food is shaped as bite sized stars and fish.
You know that there are many poisons (more than 213) that a cat can encounter naturally by which I mean poisons not put down by humans with the deliberate intention of killing cats. I have a page on these poisons which you can read by clicking here. It is a list, no more.
The deliberate poisoning of outside cats proceeds unabated. It has done over many years. It is as if the perpetrators are untouchable as I never read about them being prosecuted and punished.
Antifreeze should and could be manufactured so that it is not poisonous. Read this article: Making Antifreeze Unpalatable to Cats.
Antifreeze should and could be manufactured so that it is not poisonous. Read this article: Making Antifreeze Unpalatable to Cats.
poison all the toddler's, what a fucking pest they are. all they do is scream and cry, fucking hate kids.
ReplyDeletecats will be around long after your dead and buried, you never know they might even come and shit on your grave. and as for cats killing the wildlife, do your research dickhead.
ReplyDeletehumans are the biggest killers on this planet, wont be long before we have actually detroyed the planet,future looks bleak for your kids.
Richie, its people with attitudes and hilarious posts like yours that are fuelling the growing number of people who are prepared to harm a cat. Its very easy to start slinging personal insults around on a forum (you are not the only one) and comparing kids to cats was your finest moment and gave me quite a chuckle.
ReplyDeleteMost of us who have a problem with cats defecating on our property, would love a humane solution. I have spent quite a bit on things to try and deter the cats, such as jars of pepper, sonic devices and motion sensetive water sprayers, without success. I agree that some posts on here are quite severe and criminal, but not all of us would take such a drastic step so easily.
But unless owners change their carefree attitudes, I'm afraid cats will always be at threat by those who have simply had enough.
To the person above saying to poison toddlers, I sympathise with you. You are obviously a very lonely, sad and ugly person.
ReplyDeleteto the person who sympathise's with me, go fuck your fat ugly mother...you freak. i dont need your sympathy im better than you'll ever be, your just looking for sympathy yourself you sad CUNT.
ReplyDeleteSo much anger and profanity, and in CAPITAL LETTERS too! Do you need a hug?
ReplyDeleteSadly, you have just proved the above post correct. Have a nice day.
like i said," go fuck your your fat ugly mother if she aint already dead".
ReplyDeletehopefully you or one of your family will get cancer and suffer a slow lingering death.
Cats are vermin.
ReplyDeleteThey are responcible for killing, 30% of dead birds is the score.
And that is only birds, also wild mice, scores of butterflies and other small creatures that move rather swift.
The cat does not stop hunting, in rural areas the kill, not eat, just kill prey animals with the result the 'natural' predators leave or simply starve to death, or cant raise their of spring.
To kill a cat that is roaming outside is a good deed, you'll help the environment, protect birds, balance and preserve biodiversity.
cat owners whose cat is found outside should be fined at least a sum of 2000 euro's at first offence, by second offence the cat wilol be relocated and the owner may never again poses a cat.
only 'helped' cats can be kept as pet.
only those who have a licence can posses a cat.
cats are lethal animals and should be treated as such.
before we start...the human species are the biggest killer's on this planet.
ReplyDeletedon't start playing the numbers game idiot, that's the kind of pityfull excuse you could expect from an uneducated fool like you.
yes cat's do kill some bird's,but its nothing compared to the birds humans kill on a daily basis with,habitat loss,pollutin,cars, wind turbines,tall buildings,cellphone masts, whole flocks of endangered birds get sucked into aeroplane engines on a daily basis,and that's just bird's,what about all the other animals human's have made extinct,you can hardly blame feline's for that.
so its ok for humans to decimate the worlds animal population,you are a prick,go and do some proper research before you start playing the numbers game. its idiots like you that are the biggest threat to the planet's wildlife, didn't thay teach you anything at school.
its idiots like you that should be given a lethal injection.
my six year old daughter has a cat that she absolutely adore's and would be devastated if any one killed him, if anyone was to hurt her cat i would cut their throat.
ReplyDeleteI think there is some serious misinformation on this blog. It is NOT illegal to kill a cat on your own land. What is illegal is to cause it suffering. So if you shoot it in the head and it dies instantly, that is not illegal.
ReplyDeletePoisoning is illegal if it causes suffering. Hitting it with a tranquilliser even if it kills it, is not.
I live in the countryside, far enough away from anyone that my cats do not bother anyone, but I agree they are bloody filthy animals and I do not let them in the house. I have to have them because otherwise we get overrun with mice. What I do not like is they don't just kill the mice (and no, traps do not get rid of the mice until after they have already shit all over our food etc), they kill shrews and birds too.
"my six year old daughter has a cat that she absolutely adore's and would be devastated if any one killed him, if anyone was to hurt her cat i would cut their throat."
ReplyDeleteThat is ridiculous, it's a cat. If it gets run over will you cut the drivers throat? How about your child ends up blind from toxicara in the cat shit, will you still want your cat?
How can you value a cat over a human, do you think the cat would give a sh!t about you if the situation were reversed? Ever seen one torturing a bird or a mouse?
BTW, adores does not have an apostrophe.
fucking pointless blog, you dont like cats...so what, dont try an justify it with pathetic childish excuses like shitting in your garden,children going blind,killing birds. and by the way didnt you know your child can get toxacara canis from dog shit that will cause blindness, so be careful when you take him/her to the park because its fucking everywhere.
ReplyDeletewhere have you got all that toxicara shit from, something you googled i suppose, it's also found in dog shit and fox shit which is everywhere, and blindness is extremely rare with an average of ten kids a year in the uk contract this infection.
ReplyDeletewhy don't you spend more time and vigour informing parents about the thousands of kids killed and injured on our roads every year.
and as for cats torturing bird's that's just pathetic, what about all the torture humans inflict on animals all over the world how do you justify that?
if you don't like cat's that's your perogotive, why all the silly excuses, it just show's your mentality really.
statistics show that some of today's kitty killer's progress into tomorrow's psychotic child killer.
I said I have cats, they are not mistreated. In fact they do very well living here, plenty of food both wild and provided by me.
ReplyDeleteYes dogs do spread toxicara as well, if they are not wormed, if they are wormed and kept on premises, they rarely get worms. Roundworms are present in utero in bitches and usually activate themselves during pregnancy, hence puppies must be wormed. Cats by their nature do get worms as adults, by what they hunt and the fact they lick themselves after burying excrement.
I don't need to use google to "look it up". I am old enough and educated enough to know things without using the internet to find them out.
In any case, you may want to look it up yourself, before you rant at me (who actually does keep cats). The fact is it is legal to shoot cats on your own land. I assume you live in a town, feel free to correct me, but anyone who farms would know this already.
(First off, I'm sorry this is such a long response. I had some things I wanted to share and it ended up being longer than I expected...)
ReplyDeleteWe have had many cats over the years and consider them the best of friends. They make great pets and we enjoy having them in our home. We ALWAYS adopt from shelters and we have had ALL our cats spayed so as not to continue the problem of cat overpopulation.
I'd like to add an alternate viewpoint on this poisoning issue, however.
When we moved to our new home four years ago, there were three wild (feral) cats roaming the area. (We live in the country.) In the first twelve months, I believe we had a total of 25 or 30 vet visits because these wild cats kept attacking our cats. We were finally able to trap two of the wild cats and we took them to the shelter. Since they were completely feral, they couldn't be adopted and they were euthanized.
With the third cat, however, it STILL is attacking our cats and causing abscesses and other problems. I can't tell you how much we've spent in vet bills and how much pain this particular cat has caused to ours.
I logged on to the computer tonight to find out any other options about how to get rid of this cat. We have tried trapping it for four years to no avail. I absolutely have no issues trying to poison this cat because it has been harming our animals (in addition to attacking our cats, it has killed several of our chickens).
I certainly do not believe in random killing of animals and I think if someone is doing it just to be mean or to get rid of "all cats," that's horrible. "All cats" aren't bad, especially when some of those precious animals are someone's pets.
When it comes to feral cats, however, they are honestly like wild animals. I believe live trapping and "humane euthanasia" would be best, but we are never going to be able to trap this cat. It's just impossible. I'm not even convinced we'll be able to poison it, but we're going to try.
I don't normally post on random websites, but I think it's wrong to assume that someone is always bad for doing something when they might be doing it for a valid reason - such as protecting someone else. Not only has this cat been coming INTO our house to attack our cats (through the cat door), but it has even started going into our children's areas. We are seriously afraid that one of these days it will scratch or bite them and give them a disease. So yes, I'm going to poison it.
But I'm not happy about it. It's a sad thing to see any animal die.
We have had many cats over the years and consider them the best of friends. They make great pets and we enjoy having them in our home. We adopt from shelters and we have had ALL our cats spayed.
ReplyDeleteWhen we moved to our new home four years ago, there were three wild (feral) cats roaming the area. (We live in the country.) In the first twelve months, I believe we had a total of 25 or 30 vet visits because these wild cats kept attacking our cats. We were finally able to trap two of the wild cats and we took them to the shelter. Since they were completely feral, they couldn't be adopted and they were euthanized.
We have been unable to trap the 3rd cat. It has continued to attack our cats, it comes into our house and has tried to attack our children, and it has killed several of our chickens. I can't tell you how much we've spent in vet bills and how much pain this particular cat has caused.
When it comes to feral cats, they are honestly just wild animals. I believe live trapping and "humane euthanasia" would be best, but we are never going to be able to trap this cat.
I'm not happy about it as it's a sad thing to see any animal die, but I honestly hope the poison works.
sonya, what gives you the right to say what lives and what dies ?, who are you?. just another sad excuse for a humsn being who thinks the world owes you something.
ReplyDeletepoisoning is the most painfull barbaric way of killing something, why dont you try it on yourself or one of your family sometime and see how painfull it really is.
Wow. What serious issues some of these readers have. It's so sad to see comments taken so completely out of context. I wrote a simple explanation of how SAD it is to poison ANY animal and how we ALWAYS have made a point of relocating animals, but for the past four years we've had a specific problem with one feral cat - a cat that we've tried to catch in live traps for nearly 4 years now, with no luck. It has killed our chickens and severely wounded our other animals, including our cats. I have NEVER killed an animal before, but I did seek the advice of professionals and they said that if live traps haven't worked and the cat was posing a danger to my animals AND our children (it was), then poison was basically the last option.
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Anonymous said...
"sonya, what gives you the right to say what lives and what dies ?, who are you?. just another sad excuse for a humsn being who thinks the world owes you something.
poisoning is the most painfull barbaric way of killing something, why dont you try it on yourself or one of your family sometime and see how painfull it really is."
As I said - Wow. I don't see how I implied that the world owed me ANYTHING. And I also sympathize with the fact that poison IS barbaric. It's horribly sad when any animal has to die by any means, I think. But at the same time, when all else has failed, I believe I have an obligation to protect my animals and my family. So go bug off. And read the post next time before you respond. You might actually have something beneficial to add if you do.
Sonya
Sonya, I would not worry about it too much. They obviously think that they are being big and clever with their aggressive, unimaginative and anonymous posts. It is just a pity that they cannot bring anything new to the discussion, rather than tell us we are all doomed.
ReplyDeleteboring! boring! boring!
ReplyDeleteyawn! yawn! yawn!
go and stick hot pins in your eyes
fuck you all says freddie fox
ReplyDeletesusie,I don't think these people should own any animals.If you can poisoning cats and don't care,maybe that cat accidently got out, it happen.Would if you dog accidently got loose would you want someone to poison it.These animals maybe apart of someone family.you should remain anonymous because you are a cold hearted person and you will answer to god one day because you are'nt anonymous to him.
ReplyDeletewell i was going to use rat poison but anti freeze sounds more effective. we have a feral cat killing birds in the yard and its going down. im sick of it killing baby magpies. im going down to bunnings tommorrow.
ReplyDeleteYou should be glad this cat is killing magpies, fecking pests they are for raiding songbird nests. I'm not sticking up for cats here as I hate the filthy things, they should either be kept indoors away from wildlife or treated as any other vermin if the owners allow them to roam.
ReplyDeleteHaven't visited in a while, just to let everyone know I have not had a cat problem in about 6 months.
ReplyDelete7 cats have departed this (now clean) yard of mine never to be seen or smelled again.
Antifreeze is the best.
Myself and two neighbours have problems with 2 domestic cats from careless owners who let the cats out most of the day and all night to let the cat as they put it "do what a cat does" Problem is these cats like to use our gardens as a playground, a toilet and a mating area and we will not stand for it. At first we just used to shoo them away hoping they wouldn't come back but that never worked. Second we posted letters in their letterboxes stating that we would like those owners to show a little more responsibility for their animals and not allow them into our gardens with a firm warning that if owners didn't show more responsibility for their cats then the cats would suffer consequenes. Again our pleas were ignored so two of the three of us borrowed traps and in the first night both cats were caught. We knew that nothing would be done if we took the cats back to the owners in person and that we'd end up catching them again so my neighbour said he'd take care of them. He took them into his garage and held their heads in a sink of water until they drowned. No more kitty problems for us.
ReplyDeleteYou are totally missing the point as usual.
ReplyDeleteIt is not the cat who is to blame but the irresponsible people who allow cats to breed and then abandon them.
Go poison people not the cats!
Dogs are never a problem where I live. As soon as a dog get to be a problem due to a dirtbag owner the council takes care of it. Cats are totally ignored though, seems they are in the too hard basket. Hard to locate, hard to catch therefore hard to identify their owners. So I take care of any nuisance cats myself and I know a surprising number of people who do the same - some even borrow my trap and get me to dispose of the moggy. So its simple really - keep your cat under control like dog owners have to do or dont complain when it goes missing because all that means is it has been killed due to being a pain in the bum to someone else. Get the message yet?
ReplyDeleteI can't believe what I am reading , I know the world is sick and I know you brits and aussies are weird but i am sure you people have to stop smoking that funny stuff all your braincells are dead . You are not men just a bunch of low lifes and loosers in this world . If you had a live and a job (meaning real work ) you would not have time for this garbage . Since a large in britian is on welfare and living of the rest who work so I believe you belong to that class . Get a Job!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteResponse to last comment. What the hell are you saying? I really don't understand you. And where are you from? You are keen to criticise Britain when it is almost certain that anyone could criticise your country (assuming it is not Britain and probably the US).
ReplyDeleteThis thread is not about countries but about cat poison.
Exactly Freddy, it is the irresponsible cat owners who are to blame - but to suggest poisoning them?? I know you arent serious Freddy! But I am serious when I state the only way to sort out the problem cats is to remove the problem cats! Then hopefully the irresponsible owner wont get another or learns if they want to keep their next one they have to control it. And I think poisoning a cat is a reprehensible act, there is no reason for uneccessary cruelty. Gassing them is the way to go and it is what I do. No fuss, no pain. Shame, but thats how it has to be.
ReplyDeleteHad a lovely little light snowfall last evening as I was watching I happen to catch sight of a furry little intruder sneaking around my bird feeder. I grabbed my ......... an could easly follow the little footprints in the snow. Found him hiding at the back of my lot. He is now a lifeless lump waiting to be frozen by nature and disposed of in the trash bin down the road later this evening. I like the snow it makes tracking so much easier and it quickly covers any blood spatter!
ReplyDeleteHappy Hunting, enjoy the snow.
you cant just keep saying its in there nature or that’s what cats do or some b/s. IMO its cruel to keep a cat indoors its whole life they need to be able to roam free however this makes them an unsuitable animal to have as a pet (beside the fact there evil little shits) iv got sick of chasing cats out the garden running after them screaming at them as loud as i can + it doesn’t work they just sit on top of the 10ft high wall knowing i cant reach them watching me with evil eyes (don’t say its innocent its not) i am an animal lover and a vegetarian against killing of any animal but this morning hosed a cat i caught with icy water for about 30 seconds then let it go (iv already seen it back in the garden so that doesn’t work) so am going to put some antifreeze milk on the wall for them to drink.
ReplyDeleteWow....I love this blog. I am in the SW United States where cat populations are seriously declining song bird, rodent, reptile and amphibian populations. The state of Wisconsin has conducted a survey that found cats responsible for up to 50,000,000 song bird deaths per year in that state alone. In their wisdom, they have issued hunting licenses for feral cats to deal with the problem. I wish we had the same here. Until then, I will continue trapping and killing ferals.
ReplyDeleteAnd for the record.....I am a biologist in the state of New Mexico and a cat owner. I have 2 healthy INDOOR cats that never venture outdoors without me present. They crap in a box in my house and I clean it out once a week. I love my cats enough to keep them indoors where they won't be a nuisance to anyone or anything else.
ReplyDeleteThere is this one stupid cat that's absolutely driving me up the wall, pissing all over the place and crapping in my garden then scooting on my patio leaving horrible brown skid marks and incredible stenches which attracts flies. This is the same cat from the neighbours so don't bullshit me about how it could be the wrong cat I get and since I came back from holiday to find the incredible havoc it wreaked in under 2 weeks it sadly won't make it past this weekend. I have repeatedly asked and pleaded with my neighbour for months to sort out the problem, even had him come round to clean up his cat's mess and now he is just plain rude when I ask for his help to resolve this issue and get told I should stop being such a whiner and learn to deal with it... well I have learnt how to 'deal' with cats thanks to Google and this problem is going 'byebye'. I am convinced now more than ever that cat owners are selfish as they want to believe that just because they love the pests and don't mind the health and hygiene hazard they cause then everyone else should be fine with them. I had enjoyed living in peace and hygienic surroundings until 7 months ago and now I must daily be inconvenienced by an animal I don't even own? Not a chance. Cat owner's - stop being selfish and keep your pets where you wanted them in the first place... in YOUR home. How you achieve that is YOUR problem, stop requiring everyone else to adjust to your desired lifestyle. By the way, a confession of a desire to terminate or having terminated cats in the past, present or future ...typed out on the internet is not evidence that will prove conclusive in any particular incident. For example, someone else might kill the little shit before I do, it may just run away from its owner... or it could get run over by a car. So stop threatening people with useless legislation and figures as proving anything is near impossible unless you have evidence tying the accused to the crime scene. Yeah that's right cat lovers - sit right there and be fallaciously indignant, you selfish lot of hypocritical bastards! Now you know how we feel when your pests invade our homes, and since I can't legally beat the crap out of you and get away with it... people like me just have to get you where it relevantly hurts!! Sweet revenge!! :)
ReplyDeleteYeah yeah yeah: everyone agrees the car shit problem is the fault of the owner. The real problem is the owners don't give a fuck where their monsters make a mess, they make NO ATTEMPT to prevent the problem... indeed, these selfish owners are just glad when their little darlings use a NEIGHBOR'S YARD and not theirs. I say invest in some good antifreeze, spread it around, and rejoice over every worthless cat who is stupid enough to drink it and die. Its too bad we can't punish the owners too somehow... HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A CAT OWNER PICK UP HIS UGLY SHIT FROM A NEIGHBOR'S YARD??? NO!! IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE! And that is because they are thoughtless, lazy, and they secretly think it's funny to see their own cat shit in their innocent neighbors' yard, without even having to lift a finger to get it there. Maybe they'll drink the Anti-Freeze too!!!!!Well, we can always hope........
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fucking hell, you lot are all fucking moron's.
ReplyDeleteis this all you do in your sad little live's?
have a look back through all the post's and see how fucking pathetic you really sound.
my ten year old son has more brain's and inteligence than you idiot's.
FFS get a life.
To those that are having a problem with the "owners" of the cats that are in your yard. Anti-freeze is the solution, then fling the dead cat back into their yard and let them deal with it. They just might get the hint, but I doubt it.
ReplyDeleteI have been cat free for almost a year after dispatching several of the neighbors free roaming pets.
I sat through and read everyone's post good and bad as I have neighbourhood cats coming and shitting and pissing by my front door. Being in a new estate in Melbourne Auatralia I have the best garden by far and have spent thousands of dollars having a designer garden to only wake up in the morning to find another cat has crapped by my door and used the fine stones as its litter box. This is very frustrating and annoying considering I have been RESPONSIBLE in all that I do. Now what do I do in dealing with this matter. YOU cat owners sit there and think for a moment before you get on your moral high horse and start telling me and others what we should and should not do and take account of YOUR inactions. I do not agree that killing the cats is the way to go, but what do you offer to those that have chosen to do it. If CAT OWNERS were RESPONSIBLE in the first place this would not happen now would it. I spend hours in my garden to make it nice and presentable to only find some cat has crapped, shitted, pissed on my door step or next to it. I am not one who wants confrontation but enough is enough. What do cat owners think there cat is doing when it's not home. Down the beach, at the shops, no it's in someone else's yard shitting in it, trying to eat birds, pets, making a mess in the kids sand pit, and so forth. So before you cat people start opening your mouth and standing there saying cats are good, think again, they do not pose any benefit around the neighbourhood. Keep YOUR CAT INSIDE, if you dont like your cat inside, dont get one, it's that simple. I think you cat owners are cruel, you dont care about your cat and what could happen to it, you let it rome free not knowing where it is or what it is doing. YOU Cat owners dont care about the damage YOUR cats do, because if you did you would not let your cat out to do the damage it does, pissing in my air vent, how much damage is this to my car. How would you like me to jump up on your car and piss into the vent, im sure you would not like this, how would you like me taking a dump on your door step and then just look at you as you come out and give you the look of I know you saw me but I dont give a fuck, or how about I get my missus and fuck her while knocking into your front door, pots car etc all hours opf the night, I DONT think YOU would like this one little bit, so understand how I and so many other feel at YOUR irresponsible ownership of having a cat and allowing it to roam free. This is not good ownership, this is a fool. Would you let your baby or kid just roam free but you let you cat do this and YOU dont care. YOUR the irresponsible one's that need a really check and need to be accountable for your cats actions and the damage it does, it's people like you that make me sick as you play the fool and say it's not your fault, I cant control what my cat does. Well get a life and take responsibility. I now have a total hatred for cats and more so for cat owners who cannot be responsible, and judging by you cat owners responses thats very few are responsible. Thanks for ruining my garden, destroying very expensive plants, shitting and pissing everywhere, waking me up and others, damaging my car, YOUR pathetic. Take a good look at yourself, if you let your cat out of the house and off your property to roam where it wants it will do things that you have no control over and will damage someone's property, and if this happens as it does YOU are the low life scum who should be F#$@%$ up. Your a scum and nothing else. If your a cat owner and you control cat within your own house then this has no bearing on you if you dont then your scum as well.
ReplyDeleteMelbourne Cat hater.
FREDDIE FOX
ReplyDeleteFYI your comments need to be addressed here and you need to think about what you write and how you come across in your views and opinion.
You cannot make comments like you did on 13 December 2010 11:51 where you stated "Go poison people not the cats!"
This is the sort of irresponsible comments and actions once again from a cat owner as yourself.
Cat are to blame in what they do. Did I shit in the garden or on your door step no I did not, so how can you say cats are not to blame, this did it, it's that simple, the cats did the action no one else did it did they, so for you to say the cats are not responsible is a stupid comment in itself, as for the owners to allow this to happen shows you how irresponsible they are. No care for their neighbour, self absorbed, thoughtless, and totally pathetic, did I say pathetic, yep I said pathetic.
Melbourne Cat hater.
Response to last comment. I think that you are a disgusting little thing. You are small minded and thoughtless, ill-educated and immoral.
ReplyDeleteInteresting thread. I'd never really considered what a sad, needy, selfish bunch of muppets some cat owners are until I read it.
ReplyDeleteok, so poisoning cats doesn't make a serial killer folks really! Everyone will poison roaches and rats to get rid of these pests so what's the difference with cats?? I mean some people keep rats and roaches as pets but we are still allowed to poison them.
ReplyDeleteI am so glad I don't have this problem. We used to have cats come in our backyard and killed a rabbit of ours. Now we have our three dogs outside during the day and they keep away all pests. So having dogs might help some here with cat pest problems.
If I am ever in this predicament later on, I will rent traps and send the cats to the city kill shelter. Most irresponsible owners don't have the money to break their pet out of the city shelter anyways so its all good. Our city charges for no rabies tag, no city license and a boarding fee. They also make you spay/neuter your animal if you do reclaim it from them. So ppl who can't pay for that may choose to just not reclaim their animal.
If trapping doesn't get the problem solved, and I'm at my wit's end... I will definitely take some of these tips into consideration.
Actually, I might need to rent traps now. I'm moving to a apt complex and so far there is a lot of cats roaming around. If they start being a nuisance to me personally, I will start trapping but so far they only walk by my patio. Even if they are not bothering me maybe it will be a good idea to try and get involved with a Trap Neuter Release program to control the population. This does work and may be less expensive than poisoning every new cat who takes the place of the one you just killed. If you find a program that pays for the neuter! But they will still shit in your gardens huh. Discard what I just said then! urgh cats are so gross huh!
I really hate cats, they creep me out and shit everywhere but I don't want to kill an animals for something we do ourselves (I mean shit). Where I live, we have a lot of stray cats. They relieve themselves on my yard and not only cats, but dogs. I've had a few encounters where neighbors would stand with their dog, leash in hand, and allow it to shit on my mailbox and/or yard. It gets on my nerves. But with the cat issue, I just call animal control and they catch them all. Usually in a course of a week, I don't see any stray cats. And whats up with all the post about killing stray cats? That's sick and inhumane.
ReplyDelete"Cats are no more than vermin and rats".
That just made me laugh. Dog and cats have left shit in my yard. Bird have left turds on my car. Even a raccoon has left me a few unsightly presents. But I'm not vowing to kill every cat, dog, bird and raccoon that comes across my path. Only an imbecile was think such a thing.
And that last post made me crack up. When my friend bought a cat, it shit every where inside her house. On the carpet, couch, behind the TV, you name it. And finding shit on you yard isn't something you should kill about, even if it is repeated times. And why is everyone complaining about only "cat owners". They're are some stray cats out there in the world. I do agree that cats with owners should hold responsibility to where they're cats shit, and hold them on a leash. You know, in some states you can call the animal control and they will capture the cats and deport them for free.
Some people here are pretty butthurt. I mean, I hear comments about how terrible it would be to have someone kill their dog with rat bait but they support killing cats with it. I mean, I absolutely HATE cats, but I'm not willing to KILL them. (Though I'm positive a majority of the people here threatening to kill a cat are bluffing c: )
**I can already see some future Richard A. Wyatt's in the comment section ;)
((( note: .....I smell some trolls here. *winkwink* )))
I HATE cats, but I'm not as sick as to laying out bait that would kill them.
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I agree, there is more in this world to worry about then cat shit. If you don't want cats in your yard, call ANIMAL CONTROL AND HAVE THEM DEPORTED (This includes any other animals that shit around your yard).
@Anonymous:
"Cats are lethal" and "Cats are vermin" and "Killing a cat protects biodiversity"
OMG CATS ARE KILLING BUGS! LETS CALL THE WAAABULANCE! Okay I had to put that ;) Cats are responsible for killing rodents, bird etc. but that part of nature. Deal with it. If you have a problem with how natural it is for cats to hunt smaller creatures, go complain to god or whoever made these things.
And who ever thinks birds, rodents etc. are needed for nature to survive, your WRONG! All nature needs are microscopic organisms and bacteria. Mammals, reptiles etc. are not need for the ecosystem to survive since they have not necessary niche in the environment.
These post are all hilarious in their own ways, and there's probably more to come. If you guys want more excuses to kill animals, look up the article about "Boy, 3, eaten alive by horde of hogs." That will rile you up :) and its another excuse to kill every Hog, pig and related animal on the face of Earth. Have fun :))
Please help me.
ReplyDeleteI have a neighbor whose cats crawl on my house, they've clawed at my kitchen window screens, and they crap *everywhere* in the yard.
I have talked to my neighbor about this. She has done nothing at all. She has even been out front talking with myself and neighbors as her cats poo in the very area I'm about to garden in as soon as we're done talking! She just laughs and shoos her cats away. And that's it.
She hasn't once offered to pick up her cat poo in my yard, and says it's "cruel" to keep cats inside the house all the time (even though she has two poor birds she never lets out of their small cage, given the size of the birds).
I have put chicken wire down on the ground around my food plants, at considerable cost to me. She didn't offer to help pay or help lay down the chicken wire.
But the cats still climb the screens and I see muddy cat prints on my car each morning.
The cat owner refuses to do anything, and I am at my wits end. What do I do?? I don't want my property damaged any longer, and I don't have any more money to keep the cats away from my homegrown food. And I want to sit outside in the nice spring weather without smelling cat poo where ever I go.
Please help me. I really am at my wits end here. And I need a solution because I will not allow this to go on. I cannot trap the cats and turn them into the animal shelter because it's $50 bucks to drop them off. I do not and should not have to continue to shell out these kinds of bucks to keep unwanted animals off my property and belongings.
Please help me out here.
Thanks.
Poison the fucker. You've given the owner every chance!
ReplyDeleteFascinated to see that the psychotic imbeciles who rant on here about how and why cats should be killed, generally share a total lack of literacy with the sad losers on other sites who curse homosexuals, Palestinians, liberals etc. Has anyone carried out a study on the correlation between bigotry/psychopathic tendencies and illiteracy ? To those who whine about the excrement on their lawns, I suggest they cut their lawns more regularly instead of lounging in their unwashed underwear all day in front of porn dvds,surrounded by empty beer cans and rotting takeaway scraps. Cats are exceptionally clean animals and rarely defecate on an exposed surface like a trimmed lawn as they prefer to bury their waste. If a cat defecates on your front step then either your front step must be ankle deep in refuse or the cat is intelligent enough to know that you are elurophobic (like many mass murderers) and is making a statement.
ReplyDeleteDeath to all cats!
DeleteFascinating to see the needy wankers justifying why their cats must be allowed to shit on other peoples property because those people obviously are all unemployed psychotic porn addicts, living in mess/squalor as they revel in their membership of the nazi party.... you are sadder than the poisoners, jog on muppet.
ReplyDeleteRegarding my "Please help me" post from a few days ago.
ReplyDeleteI find it interesting that all the people who defend cats don't seem to offer any suggestions when people like me genuinely ask for help in such matters.
It's decided and done. My problem is no longer a problem.
Thanks for everyone's posts! these were quite insightful, everyone's thoughts.
Peace.
I think freddy fox not only loves cats but the boys aswell. I'm loving the cute sweater he's wearing. Freddy fox is it true anti freeze helps
ReplyDeleteMaintain a shiny healthy coat on cats?
Response to last comment. I find this insulting and unintelligible.
ReplyDeleteWhat sweater are you referring to? I am not wearing a sweater and if you mean the red sweat shirt that I wear with the cat (photo by Helmi Flick on the main website) this was given to me for the photo as it creates the American colours.
As to being gay. I am not. But if I was it would not be something to criticise me and insult me for.
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ReplyDeletelast decades ago,where more than 30 cats strayed around the compound apartments every night w/ no owners they multiply and place their kittens in every door in the apartment for adoption but noone here likes cats, theyre very noisy and bothering a lot. but there was a very poorguy living in our neighbor who loves cats very much,infact that he caught them one by one and eats them everyday!!! most if not all desappeared.
ReplyDeletein aust cats are an itnroduced pest that kills hundreds of native wildlife all year. if you have a hunting liscence there fare game. iv lost count of how many iv killed
ReplyDeleteI've got a problem with at least one cat shitting in my garden - several seedling have been dug up and replaced by partly buried cat turds - Does anyone know of a fast acting poison that would cause the cats any pain before death?
ReplyDeleteHow can you reason with cat owners when all deny liability that their cat is responsible for the cat sh**.
ReplyDeleteI get up this morning and there is 10 piles of the stuff waiting form me!!
What is more, I have pet chickens that cannot free range unless I am out in the garden because as soon as I leave, the stalking begins.
I cannot allow my disabled son to use the garden as he can only sit or crawl. Is this fair?
Yes, I agree, that a cats natural instinct is to roam, but by the same token, my 2 beautiful dogs if allowed to do so would love to do the same, even if it was to just explore the immediate neighbourhoud. Are they allow to crap where they like? NO NO NO, so why should cats be.
Let cat owners put them on leads as they are apparently legally obliged to do in Canada, or build outdoor cat runs. My garden is dog proofed.
With regard to cats being poisoned by people leaving antifreeze etc. The person who put the antifreeze down on there own property are not commiting a crime. THE CAT OWNERS ARE THE ONES POISONING THEIR CATS BY ALLOWING THEM TO ROAM FREE.
My husband is frantically now planting out every available spot in the garden with Lillies. These will poison any cat that has suffiecient contact with them. Are we responble if a cat dies or is it the ower of the cat. Do we have to go arround the neighbourhood to ask permission what we are allowed to plant in our own garden or leave unattended in our own garages, etc.?
If a child of mine or even a dog went onto someone elses property univited and came to harm doing so by the fact that the owner had put down rat poison, slug bait etc. Who is to blame??? ME..........
Hi all. Just as quite few of you, I'm suffering from cat terror :/. Every morning I found (cat, if someone is not sure of the topic) crap near my car and paw print all over the hood, windshield, roof...
ReplyDeleteObviously, talking to the owner did not yield any result.
Is there a humane way to keep the cat (permanently!) away? I've read, that "citrus smell" (some more detail please? citric acid? no problem) is unpleasant to cats (but also to car paint, and not rain resistant)...
To be honest I've googled options for "Plan B", and my 2 favorites are "electric shocker" (300V@4mA, should do the trick without permanent damage (hopefully, keeping fingers crossed ;)), or just like the cat does, sneak attack with ibuprofen.
Please DON'T give the that "that's inhumane" talk, I don't have anymore patience with, or clean up after that pest...
Thanx in advance, Peter (from Slovakia)
I will say you have to wade through a lot of rants from both sides to get to some practical "cat be gone" methods on this site! I do agree that the problem with cats is their owners, not the cats, and really do not want to cause cats a cruel (painful, lingering) death but also believe that death is the only cure.
ReplyDeleteHere is what I have done so far: Trapped cats and called animal control who came and got the cat at no charge. The problem with this is that they take quite a while to come and meanwhile some cats put up a terrific ruckus that can easily be heard by neighbors. I do not want them to know it is me getting their cats as I fear retaliation. Also, the animal control van is clearly marked when they arrive. So, next, I trapped and took cats to our shelter (no fee, fortunately, in our area). This is better but you have to be watching the trap and get it right away after you get a cat and stuff him quickly in the car trunk for same reason of some of them making quite a noise. So far none have "done their business" in my trunk but I also fear that. I put the trap in a big plastic yard bag to help in case of this problem. However, this method is time consuming and of course you don't always get a cat during the time you can watch. And the only reason this sometimes works for me is that I work from home and can watch the back yard. Also, I have seen cats come into the trap, eat the bait, and then leave! (get a trap where the trip lever is more in the middle of the cage to solve this). Some of them also go all around the trap for ages without going in.
So, that is why I came to this site looking for poison methods. I read some other sites about the antifreeze that says it can take days to kill the cat with a lot of grim symptoms so that is not my first idea. I also read somewhere about ibuprofen or acetaminophen… Anyone know if that acts faster? Does the rat poison act fast?
What I would really like to do is trap them and then shoot them or conk them on the head. Shooting alone is too dicey as our houses are too close together. Also, I am afraid to shoot even point blank into the trap for fear of ricochet from the wire trap if I miss (any experience with this?). I don't know if I could conk the cat hard enough to kill it plus how do get it still enough to conk it? I do like the sound of the carbon monoxide method.
If anyone has answers to my various questions, thanks! Otherwise, I think I will try the carbon monoxide trick on my next cat. They start to give you dirty looks if you take cats too often to the animal shelter…plus killing after trapping would be much faster.
After I've written my post (Peter from SVK), I've found this site:
ReplyDeletehttp://pets.webmd.com/cats/guide/top-10-cat-poisons
To sum it up:
Ibuprofen it is XD!
Great read for the most part. Glad to hear from people who are level headed in taking care of somebody else's problem.
ReplyDeleteI have read that "modern" antifreeze has a embittering agent added to it to make it not so tempting to animals. Anybody care to share their thoughts?
Saw a news item where Police are after someone near Worcester who has taken out 20 cats. Either he has some old anti-freeze or modern stuff still works. Obviously this person got sick of other peoples cats impacting their life and took matters into his own hands. The fact that he got 20 suggests the owners couldnt care less where their pets roam. At least the publicity might make a few who still have their pets, or those who losts theirs and intend getting replacements, wake up to themselves and keep them at home.
ReplyDeleteKeep your cat on your property and you wont lose it. How simple is that?
ReplyDeleteI kill cats and I have no issue with it.
ReplyDeleteTo me, it's no different to poisoning rats and mice. Cats alike; they are all parasitic vermin who gladly piss and shit on your clothes, porch, shoes, letter box, whatever.
Dogs can be domesticated and trained not to be such stupid *uck*ng ***holes. Cats are wild at nature. Don't go fooling yourself into believing that you can domesticate a cat by putting a collar on it.
Oh, and the main thing I find hilarious on this blog is that the cat lovers know full well that they are powerless to stop us from killing their beloved cats. They are only powerless to do anything because cat owners are lazy, low-life morons whho rarely lift a finger.
You know what? I don't care if your pride prevents you from keeping your cat in your backyard - that's YOUR problem and you have DISCIPLINE PROBLEMS and a LACK OF RESPECT for other people. If your car pisses on my porch or shits in my backyard, I will kill it, just as I do with rats, mice and other pests.
I train my dog, I keep my dog on a leash, I feed it and I cuddle it everyday because I LOVE it and I CARE for it - and I sure as hell don't let it roam the streets.
You cat owners sicken me. If you cared about your pets, you would look after them. Stop giving us the BS on how you care about your cats - if you care about a living creature, you need to know where it is at all times. I'm quite sure most of the people who let their children roam the streets are cat owners.
When an animal is allowed to roam the streets, it is considered a stray. No responsible pet owner would condone this behavior. It's dangerous for the animal as well. I love my cat and would never subject it to the cruel world of the streets.
ReplyDeleteWe have a very large problem with cats in my neighborhood and the County has done very little to correct it. I've tried trapping, sealing up all holes and openings in my fence, calling the County about 50 times, putting chicken wire under my garden as well as placing pepper in the dirt. None of this matters, the cats continue to shit, piss and spray all over MY property.
I've done everything I can think of to no avail. Well, guess what? I have no choice now, I have to start killing them! I will hunt them like deer!
If you don't like it then I suggest you keep YOUR fucking pet in YOUR house or property and off of MINE!!! I do. Why can't you?! The "owners" of these pests should be sent to jail after one warning.
ok I've learned a lot on this website. I know how to poison cats now...thanks
ReplyDeleteI have extreme allergies to cats and they drive me nuts. I have no way of knowing who owns them.... Bottom line...I am not "cruel" but if it comes down to getting rid of cats on my property or me suffering..sorry cats lose.
The antifreeze solution seems good...easy to get etc....I've tried rat poison in catfod before and have no idea if it worked..I know the food is all gone the next day but with antifreeze it seems like a sure bet...thanks
Response to last comment. Don't fool yourself. You are cruel. You are criminal. I hope you are caught and convicted. I hate people like you because you have no morality and sensitivity. You're horrible. I actually despise people like you and you should be despised.
ReplyDeleteI was thinking my cat was poisoned, but none of her signs seem to be mentioned...so, off to the vet I go (was going anyways)...just wanted to know if I could do anything before going. Good site by the way.
ReplyDeletei have a big koi pond and some nice koi fish some are worth a few hundred pounds,first of i put a net on pond,that still wasnt enough the little stinking cats still tried to get to my fish clawed a couple to get them,now i have made a cover to protect my fish cats cant get to fish anymore joy, put i now cant see them when i want to,all this from the bastards cats,now i will not hesitate to get rid of the cats either way,as for the cat shit well i should put a sign up come here and shit for free !!!!! i swear to god,this can not be allowed to spoil my hobby or fun,i dont have cats or dogs,so why do i have to clean up shit from my garden why,should the owner come and do this no i dout it very much,i will start posting shit through there letter boxes,so beware,
ReplyDeletei think the aussie cat killer should tell us where your from so you can fight with someone your own size you know only the sickiest most depraved people kill animals its one of the main traits that you find in serial killers of course you would because these people are cowards and can only hurt something as helpless as an animal or a defenseless human well come on bitch how about you take on someone who can fight back ohh yea thats right cause youd get your fuckin ass beat or maybe thats why you do this cause you always get your ass beat or maybe your just sad and pathetic im guessin both
ReplyDeletewhen one of your bullets hits YOU in the back of the head my aussie mate i hope you take your last few seconds to know where you went wrong in life......... you should point it at the real problem "YOU".......... fucken clown !!! there little kids pets your killing, u would have by now made quite a few enemies im sure.... lucky i dont know who you are.... dickhead !!!
ReplyDeleteWow. Cant believe some of the responses. So other people should put up with the selfishness of a cat owner who allows their pet to roam at will just because they like cats? As I see has been said before many times on this blog - control your pets and there isnt a problem. If you see no problem with allowing your pet to adversely affect others quality of life it seems to me you really have no cause to complain if someone else takes care of the problem you wont?
ReplyDeleteHmmmm, I think the respective animal cruelty organizations and the police of various countries need to be told of this blog, that way they can track all of these vile, sick minded individuals down from they're ip addresses. The fbi does that kind of thing all the time. Perhaps this is the real.reason why mr.fox is staying silent, so you can all incriminate yourselves. Enjoy what free time you have left, I can also guarantee that if I ever met any of you, I'd show you precisely how I feel about your behavior and attitudes. How? With a knife, an axe and some tape, then we'll see if you want to beg for forgiveness, I'll leave you with your imaginations.
ReplyDeleteI am a hundred percent behind you.
ReplyDeleteAt least the cat owners have been warned.
Set your catflap to one way, then when he next comes in scare the crap out of it so he remembers never to come back in!
ReplyDeleteI raise quail. I have them in a fenced in area. 6' wooden fence. I had to put netting up over the area and install braces to suppOrt it. the cats are now going up on my roof to watch them and crapping all over my roof. and now they are digging under my fence trying to catch them. I am doing my part by keeping my birds confined, protected , and quiet so I don't bother my neighbors. none of my neighbors claim ownership of the cats but they barely claim their kids! so since no one claims any of the cats and they are in my property hunting my birds, don't you think I have a wright to dispatch them??? I am not hunting them for sport, and I hate to do it, but I have to protect what is mine, and I will do it!
ReplyDeletei know of a person who just drowns them then drops them in the dumpster in trash bags. but ill never give him / her up. because i belive that it is a very useful service!
ReplyDeleteStrays are driving me nuts, together with some owners they have made my entrance area their lavatories. Recommend me a quick effective poison please!
ReplyDeleteI live in south Florida and someone down the rd feeds feral cats. I have a screened in pool enclosure and every morning I see cat paw prints on top of my screened in enclosure. the lady across the street had a cat fall through the roof of her screened in enclosure then the cat ruined 2 other screens trying to get out. Not to mention if it falls in the pool. I have called animal control and they said that there is no "leash law" here in florida and they will not try to catch the cat. I have to catch the cat and then I can drop him off. PROBLEM : I can not put a cat trap on top of screens, it will fall through, so I have put out cat traps with tunafish in the trap. I have caught 2 raccoons and 2 cats over the course of 3 months. I have released all back in the wild a few miles away from my home. However I can not seem to catch the one who is continually getting on top of my screen, Any help would be grateful I am at my wits end and am thinking that if I put poison in a tupperware bowl on top of screens I will finally be rid of this one extremely costly cat. I even bought some granules that supposedly cats hate and they will stay away from and sprinkled it all around my screened in area. He was on top of the enclosure the same night
ReplyDeleteThere are coutries which do not have animal control and there are many many many stray cats. Generations of stray cats. There are no owners to go to, there is no animal control. so rather than have stray semi-wild animals defecating all over your property, scratching your vehicles, making some of the most annoying sounds at all hours of the night and posing a health risk to you and your family, it is much better to attempt eliminate the animals rather than have to live with all their crap.
ReplyDeleteI love most domesticated animals, but I hate stray animals.
Quote me the source of your figures. And make sure the science is good. I know far more about this than you do and your argument is weak and wrong.
ReplyDeleteI am sure you cause disease too.
ReplyDeleteI expect you cause disease too.
ReplyDeleteNobody wants to see the kitties suffer.
ReplyDeleteThis is why the irresponsible owners let them run free.
One day kitty just doesn't come home, no suffering witnessed.
There are many hazards a roaming animal can encounter, and anti-freeze or carbon monoxide are only two.
If you love your pet and want to keep it safe, then you MUST monitor/control where it goes and what it does.
Well said. I agree that irresponsible cat owners should not let their cat run free where or in areas where there are people who hate cats.
DeleteCats should be supervised when they go outside at least to a certain extent.
That said there are very many visitors to this page who have made comments which indicate to me that given an opportunity they would kill a cat.
If we are obliged to monitor exactly where our cat goes why do we give people the freedom to go where they wish? Is it because people are superior to cats?
It seems that every cat hater believes that humans are vastly superior to cats and other animals. Personally I do not believe that. I believe that every animal, including the human animal, deserves respect.
It has been a long wait but you are an arsehole. You're one of those imbeciles who have difficulty understanding the finer nuances of life. Why you have such a hatred for the faeces of a cat? Do you hate your faeces? I'm sure you create more mess than any cat.
ReplyDeleteWhere, may I ask, did you get that information from? There is no reliable information about cats preying on birds anywhere in the world. It is all guesswork. Even scientific studies have been proved to be defective and are themselves based on estimates. Please try and write something which is reliable.
ReplyDeleteNot everything in life is about survival of the fittest. There is such a thing as welfare and helping others. There is such a thing as helping the vulnerable and weak. These are the signs of a civilised society. You would seem to be living in the Stone Age.
ReplyDeleteyou tell the cat owner to keep his cat in his yard and your told to piss off! why do cat owners (most) think its ok to let their cat roam?
ReplyDeletebut I cant let my dog crap in their garden?
you cant "remove" the owner but I can remover their cat!
Cat owners should respect the views of other people. I agree. If they don't then they should be criticised and a dialogue should take place but there is no justification under the circumstances to hurt the cat because the cat is in between 2 warring people. The cat is innocent. The cat is behaving naturally. Why, therefore, should the cat be hurt or worse, killed?
DeleteIt is a very unsophisticated and uncivilised thing to do to kill a cat because the cat is allowed to roam onto your property because that responsibility is the cat owner's.
Unfortunately, I live next to a nut who has been feeding stray cats for 2 years and they are multiplying and crapping all over my yard and the city, animal protective league nor the animal warden will do anything about it. It is illegal in my city to feed stray animals and create colonies but the authorities are no help so, unfortunately, people are forced to take matters into their own hands or clean up crap for the rest of their lives!
ReplyDeleteWhat sucks is that the authorities in charge do NOTHING about people who feed stray cats and create colonies of cats roaming the neighborhood crapping on everyone else's lawn. Even though it is illegal in my city to feed stray animals, animal control does nothing to remove these animals so as a homeowner, I'm just suppose to stand by and watch these cats destroy my property and let the value of my property go down? The people who SHOULD be prosecuted are the authorities who are worthless and let innocent people suffer!
ReplyDeleteYOU are misguided...I live next to a nut who is breeding wild cats and leaving them to roam the neighborhood crapping all over everyone else's yards and the authorities whom I have contacted several times do NOTHING to remove these animals even though it is illegal to feed stray cats and create colonies so there is no help from the law to protect my property from these cats and I'm just supposed to stand by while my property is destroyed and clean up crap for the rest of my life!!
ReplyDeleteIf the local authority is not discharging its duties properly under the law then you should take legal steps to remove councillors and elect fresh councillors and make proper complaints to the right people in order to change things but under no circumstances should the cat be blamed or hurt.
ReplyDeleteMy cats are indoor pets. But if they ever got out and someone poisoned them, I would do everything I could to find out who it was and would seriously consider slitting their throat.
ReplyDeleteI feel the same way. A lot of people do. There is a battle between people who like or love cats and people who hate cats some of which like to kill them. Nasty people who I detest.
Deletei have a native garden both in the front yard and rear yard... stray cats come on a regular basis and shit and piss all over these native plants that end up dying....I often find half eaten native birds like kookaburras as well as parrots laying around my yard.... the plants attract these birds. now I love all animals equally, but in the interest of protecting my plants and the birds from these cats is what I consider my responsibility.. seeing as I attract them here... my only resolution is msg and antifreeze..... I HAVE contacted the owners of these cats and told them what they are doing.. but still... they do nothing about it....so whos fault will it be when these cats are no more??
ReplyDeleteMy salutes to you. I, too have just started poisoning the stray cats in my neighbourhood. The crazy cat people here feed the strays and they breed, pee and poop everywhere except the crazy cat people's homes.
ReplyDeleteI have set out pure antifreeze and cat food (they strays love whiskas tuna) laced with antifreeze, , rodenticide(mixture of warfarin and zinc phosphide), paracetemol and MSG (to enhance the flavour and mask the poison).
So far I have got 2 of the vermins down. I got my job cut out for me, as the crazy cat people keep on feeding the strays.... but I know, if I can get one, I can slowly get them all! The first one drank pure antifreeze,puked its whole stomach contents out and died outsidemy compound! Success!
The second one succumbed to my deadly cat food cocktail! Success again!
These vermin are the devil and must be put down!
Why are you being so kind to these piles of dung? I would rather step in a million piles of cat crap everyday than to live in a world where humans like this are breathing and expelling their foul air in the atmosphere.
ReplyDeleteYou are reading misleading information from biased scientists and weak studies.
ReplyDeleteI want to kick all of them but there is no point ranting and raving online. I think one makes more progress by sensible and calm argument. I don't think I am being kind. I am just being calm.
ReplyDeleteEvery night some stray cat comes in my house through the cat flap and viciously rapes my precious cat. I can hear it happening from up stairs but by the time I come down to stop it the rapist cat is already gone and my cat has his splurge on her stomach fur.
ReplyDeleteHi. Pls let me know how you killed the cats.
ReplyDeletePosting from Manila Philippines. Living in one of the exclusive villages here.
ReplyDeletePoop. Pee. Scratching my car. Scaring my wife and kids.
I bought Racumin. Dora. And 3 other kinds of rat poison from Handyman.
Since there were many anti freeze on the shelf. Got them as well.
So here's what I've tried so far.
1. BB gun. Hit them a few times. Doesn't work.
2. Used grounds from Starbucks. Works a bit.
3. Last night I added some antifreeze to cold milk. The boogers ignored it.
4. Whiskas mackerel and tuna wet good mixed with racumin. They ate it.
5. The next evening. Again mixed rat poison with wet cat food. And get this. While I was mixing it and preparing. The booger came up to me and started purring and eagerly calling for its good. I purred back and assured it it will be fast and painless.
Bon appetite I purred.
I also added antifreeze to some Whiskas kibble and he/they ate it.
Will make this my blog. Will keep you guys posted.
-Man from Manila.
Maybe I added too much antifreeze to the milk. Coz when I added some antifreeze to the dry kibble And some canned sardines with tomato sauce they lapped it up
DeleteSome dogs pooped in my yard too, and their poops were more and bigger.
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