Car antifreeze is a cat poison. There is a spate of poisonings in Weston-super-Mare, UK, at the date of this post. All seem to have died from eating/drinking antifreeze. This has all the signs of being deliberate (but may be due to carelessness). Some people hate cats. A substantial number do in fact. A fair number of people search for the keyword "cat poison". That implies that some people are possibly thinking about poisoning cats. And some are trying to work out what might have poisoned their cat. Note: Go immediately to the vet if you suspect poisoning as speed can save lives.
Important: It is a crime to poison a cat deliberately. This is cruel indefensible behavior. In the UK, the Animal Welfare Act 2006 applies. It states that a person found guilty of causing unnecessary suffering to an animal shall face a maximum six-month prison sentence plus a £20,000 fine. My message to anyone contemplating it is to stop and think, why? There is no good reason to do. It is pure cruelty. Ask yourself what is driving you to think in that way. If you are able to do this honestly you will realise that the motivation to harm should be directed at someone else not the innocent cat. In which case help is needed. Please bear in mind that responsibly for a cat lies with a person. If you are incensed by a cat's behavior ask if the cause is an irresponsible cat owner. It will always prove to be the case. In which case leave the cat alone and talk with the person instead. The cat is a victim of our behavior.
To all those people in the USA thinking about poisoning a cat, the laws are often very similar to the UK and animal cruelty is a crime in the USA as well. Punishment varies from state to state but can be as severe as here in the UK. See Cat Cruelty Laws in the USA (this link opens in a new window).
Important: A visitor has left a comment saying he has killed 14 domestic cats (about 30 comments down). He lives in Australia (surprise). He is almost certainly committing serious crimes. Please read the comment and if you know who he is please tell me by leaving a comment. I will then inform the police and local RSPCA.
For those few who are planning poisoning: why do people plan malicious cruelty to cats? I seems that they are bored, unable to cope, angry, damaged individuals who strike out against the world and in doing so pick on a vulnerable creature, a companion animal that provides a lot of comfort and pleasure to a lot of people.
The poisoned cats are domestic cats. Yet a lot of cat keepers are irresponsible in letting their cats roam widely risking injury and yes poisoning by ill people.
It is a combination of events. Cat poison is used by ill and bad people against cats that are sometimes poorly looked after. The best immediate solution is to keep cats in or under control and supervision plus to find out where the anti-freeze is or was (if this is caused by anti-freeze) and do some work on investigating the matter ourselves. We cannot rely on the police in this country. They don't even bother to investigate many crimes against people (e.g. burglary) and those against cats are going to be low priority. Some plants are cat poison: see House Plants Poisonous to a Cat (which contains pictures) and/or Plants Poisonous to Cats for a fuller list.
Cat poison - Update 9th Oct 2008 on antifreeze poisoning: if this is not an act of maliciousness (and I shouldn't presume that it is) then it could be carelessness but I find this a little hard to believe but perhaps I am being cynical. Apparently this last spate of cat poisonings may be due to people topping up their cars with anti-freeze and spilling some. It also means that cats are drawn to antifeeze. The number of cats that have been poisoned indicates that this is deliberate, however, and that the anti-freeze was in more than one place. Also you don't need to put antifreeze in modern cars. The water coolant rarely if ever needs topping up and has antifreeze in it from purchase. Antifreeze is ethylene glycol and it causes acute kidney disease.
Other cat poisons and what to look out for and do
Cats are by nature curious and are liable, therefore, to ingest something poisonous and it is often not clear what it is as it might not be nearby. If the poison can be identified it will obviously help to decide treatment.The first and most important step is most likely to be to make your cat vomit (although this is not always the case). How to make a cat vomit is mentioned below. What appears to be an excellent advice service in the United States called the Animal Poison Control Center(new window) run by ASPCA tel (888) 426-4435 that I would have thought would be the first thing to do after trying to make your cat vomit (if sure that this is the right thing).
Fungi
One fungi that is not that uncommonly seen in badly managed homes that are poorly ventilated and damp might be black mold or toxic black mold. This is: stachybottys chartarum (also known as S. atra) is known as "black mold" or "toxic black mold," and is frequently associated with poor indoor air quality that arises after fungal growth on water-damaged building materials. It is known to produce trichothecene mycotoxins including satratoxins.
Stachybotrys is a genus of molds, or asexually-reproducing, filamentous fungi. Closely related to the genus Memnoniella, most Stachybotrys species inhabit materials rich in cellulose. (Verbatim from Wikipedia as allowed under license).
Rodent Poisons
Strychnine: Rat, mouse, mole poison and coyote bait contains strychnine. In America it can be bought as a purple, green or red dyed pellet. Symptoms appear within 2 hours:
- Agitation, apprehension
- seizures lasting about 60 seconds (in contrast, epileptic seizures last about 3 minutes)
- cat throws head back, turns blue because it can't breathe
- small stimulus such as noise causes a seizure
Sodium Flourocetate: It is mixed with rat feeds. Very poisonous. Signs are sudden and include vomiting, agitation, staggering walk, convulsions, collapse. Induce vomiting. Take to vet for antidote.
Zinc Phosphide: Signs are laboured breathing, vomiting (blood), convulsions. No antidote.
Cat poison - update 9th October 2008: looking back on the massive pet food recall in the USA in 2007 it seems that the cause was a chemical called melamine that was added to wheat gluten that in turn is added to cat food to thicken the gravy. China recently went through a scandal about baby milk poisoning babies because it contained melamine. Apparently it adds protein to the product. It is also a human and cat poison. The cats poisoned suffered acute kidney disease. The wheat gluten was imported from China but I don't know if it originated in China. As far as I am aware the baby food products and the added melamine originated in China.
Wheat gluten is a meat substitute as it looks like meat. It is meat for vegetarians. Cats are obligate carnivores so I have no idea why it is in cat food. But then again lots of cat food is not meat or anything remotely like meat. If it was it would make it too expensive. I think cat food is too cheap. If it was more expensive it would be genuine cat food and the price might deter irresponsible cat keepers. See a lot more on melamine in cat food.
Cat poison - Update 21st October: Regarding the pet food poisoning referred to above, it would seem that damages have been agreed at $24 million. I suppose the USA pet food suppliers paid this and will try and sue the China suppliers of the poisoned ingredient for indemnity. Anyway what is interesting about this is that the damages are for economic loss only. That is compensation for veterinarian bills, time spent away from work and property damage. The average claim is worth $1,500. There is no compensation for the greatest loss, the loss of ones dearly loved cat. This is called pain and suffering and is part of a claim in an action for injury arising out of negligence, for example, if one is suing on behalf of a person.
As I understand it the damages are limited to economic loss because a cat is considered a "chattel", an object considered no different to, for example, a washing machine. The law needs updating. This happens.
Update 3rd April 2009: Another case of cat poison being either carelessly left about (highly unlikely) or put out deliberately (far more likely, in my view). This latest incident happened in north Wales and Shropshire, UK. Three cats have died. The generous RSPCA inspector said that he wasn't sure if it was malicious or deliberate. But how often do we see anti-freeze left lying around these days? Modern cars do not need ant-freeze to be changed or renewed. This has almost got to be deliberate and as usual I am concerned that not enough effort is being made to catch the perpetrator or to investigate the matter. I wonder how many criminals actually get caught for poisoning or injuring cats? Very very few, I am sure.
Cat Poison Update 8-07-09: This is an imaginative way to poison a cat and commit a crime, cover the cat in motor oil and grease and wait to see if the cat tries to lick it off. This happened to two cats in Mattapan, Boston, USA. Fortunately someone saw and rescued them. They were taken to the local MSPCA in Boston and washed clean. Never consider using cat poison. It is morally very wrong and a serious crime. Here is a street view of Mattapan:
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Something more positive for a change. The treatment for poisoning from antifreeze (ethylene glycol) is to induce vomiting and get to the vet as soon as possible. This has to be done quickly. The signs of toxicity, which happen suddenly are vomiting a walk that looks as if the cat is drunk, weakness, stupor and eventually coma. According to the Cat Owner's Home Veterinary Handbook you can induce vomiting by giving "hydrogen peroxide 3 percent: one teaspoon per 5 pounds of body weight (up to 3 teaspoons per dose) every 10 minutes or until the cat vomits This can be repeated 3 only 3 times. I would ask you vet about this and keep some in safe storage as inducing vomiting is often (but not always) the first and immediate step.
Cat Poison Update 29-8-09: In Wales, UK (see map below) a person seems to be poisoning cats with antifreeze. 8 cats have been put down with kidney failure the sign of anti-freeze poisoning. As it is summer there is no need to be dealing with anti-freeze right now so this seems like deliberate poisoning but tests are still being carried out. Anyone in the area with suspicions should please contact the police and/or RSPCA as soon as possible.
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I don't like cats at the best of times, but even less when they relieve themselves at the front of my house. If there wasn't fear of prosecution, I would poison them today.
Hi, thanks for the comment. I understand your feelings. But the animal that you should strike out at is the irresponsible cat owner who allowed this to happen. Why punish a natural act by an innocent animal?
You make a valid point - although there are so many cats in my neighbourhood that trying to track its owner would be impossible!
Of course I am not going to poison a cat...it is a practical solution I think, but not advisable and another cat would only come along and do the same thing. I just think in this respect they are like vermin - when their owners let them out into the neighbourhood they know they will do this. Dogs on the other hand...not so - when a dog does doodies, good owners pick it up!
Maybe cats need leashes and supervision?
Hi, yes, I tend to agree. There are arguments going around for leash laws for cats and/or registration. In other words forms of control as people cannot be left to do it themselves. The trouble in enforcement.
I have a small female cat and have a cat flap which she uses. There is a large black male cat who comes into my house every day / night, bullies my cat and worst of all it PISSES in my house. My cat is neutered so its no coming in for sex.
I cannot get near this cat to throw water on it - the bugger is too clever for me in making it's escape. I am at my wits end and have thought about poisining this little bastard to make it sick. If you have any other suggestions - I would be glad to hear them.
HI, thanks for the comment. I can understand. I have two strays that come in. As you can tell I would never advocate cruelty and anyway it is a crime under the Animal Welfare Act 2006 if you are in the UK. There is similar legislation in America.
But it is unfair that an unneutered (probably) male cat should terrorize your sweet girl cat, probably eat some of her food, piss on the place (this is a territorial marker - he thinks your home is his territory) and then pisses off.
These possibles come to mind, both not that good. He sounds like a stray cat but could be a "time-share" cat (likes to have several owners). If he is stray he could be trapped and taken to a shelter. But this is time consuming and troublesome. He would be re-homed or euthanized (legally). Another possible would be an electromagnetic cat flap (Google that term and you'll see them). These are designed to deal with the problem you have. Another possibility is to make your cat an indoor cat with an outside enclose. Once again this would entail a change in lifestyle and some expense but not that much.
If you can get near enough to the cat you could put a collar on him with a note asking the owner to claim him and to take charge of the problem for you. The responsibility to resolve the problem rests with the "owner".
All these are troublesome but legal and the best I can think of for the moment. One last unacceptable answer: make friends with him. That may stop him spraying and he will eventually stop terrorizing your cat. He may be spraying to assert his authority over the territory which he needs to do as a result of your actions. But he may be a complete bastard of a cat. It all depends.
I hate ALL cats apart from the biggies like lions n tigers. Those dont SHIT in UR GARDEN! I really wish i could poison ALL the little fucking bastards!!!!! If I was PM I'd tear up the cat section in the animal welfare act and mass kill via army all the little rodent vermin bastards!
To the last comment: I respect your opinion of course. But I think you should ask why you want to kill them all just because one or two shit on your garden. If they do this it is not the fault of the cat as this is natural; it is the fault of the human person who "owns" the cat(s). Maybe you should vent your rage against him or her. And perhaps at the same time go on an anger management course!
three months ago, this was a quiet neighborhood. then my misguided neighbor started putting out food for every cat within a 10 block area to come and eat. Now there are no more songbirds left (driven out and/or killed by cats) and our potted plants all dug up and shitted and pissed on as well as the gardens and yowling and fighting at all hours of the night.
And of course, they breed breed breed. At it's peak there were about two dozen cats hanging about. I say at it's peak because a week ago I began putting out my own little dish IN MY GARAGE every night. There may have been antifreeze in it. All I know is that things are back to normal.
Not once did I leave the boundaries of my property to do this. Indeed, the food was located in my carport. Whatever, no more cat shit in my carport to clean up.
If cat lovers can't or won't take care of their pets then more drastic measures need to be taken.
And I'm not bothering with cages and multi-trips across town to the
euthanasia center..excuse me.."animal shelter" to deal with this any more.
TO THE RESPONSES LEFT BY ANONYMOUS.....
YOU ARE A VERY SICK PERSON..
I THINK YOU SHOULD BE POISONED...
THIS WORLD WILL BE BETTER OFF WITHOUT SCUM LIKE YOU.
Please do us a favor...Anonymous....
and swallow a bunch of strychnine pills.
Your opinions and character ( or lack of one)
are a waste of oxygen to us individuals who live in peace here on earth.
You are a piece of shit garbage.
poisoning is a FELONY....YOU FREAK LOSER!
THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS...LIKE TNR SPAY NEUTURING.
Honestly. YOU are a lowlife creep.
I hate cats. I was walking my dog yesterday and she stuck her head into some bushes and she was SCRATCHED BY A CAT. It got the top of her head, the side of her muzzle, and there's a 1cm gash right under her EYE. Screw feeling sympathetic. If owners can't keep their cats confined somewhere where they they are not a niussence, then they deserve to be poisoned. In fact I'm thinking of mixing some antifreeze with catfood to kill the cat who mauled my dog.
Hi, thanks for your comment. The cat was simply defending itself. You cannot blame and hurt the cat. It could be argued that it was your fault as you were responsible for your dog at that moment. You can't blame the dog either. It is our fault so if you want to strike out at something do it against a person.
A stray/feral cat just killed my 2 pet cats within a week; the first one looked like a natural death and he was old so I thought nothing of it. This morning I wake up to find my other cat decapitated!
Im starting to wish that guns are legal in my country...
Thanks for the comment. Are you sure that your cats were attacked by another cat? A cat would not decapitate another cat. It would have to be a much bigger animal. If you are in the States it could be Coyotes.
Im sure its a cat - cat droppings at the scene that did not belong, and im in the middle of busy suburbia, where is a coyote going to come from? Cats can get feral... this one will be put down with prejudice.
My cat is small, I've seen the feral cat once straddling my fence and its quite large. The only other explanation is punk kids jumped into my backyard at night and did this and the stray cat came afterwards and played around with the body. My cat however doesnt like strangers so it wont just let anybody pick her up.
Hi, I understand what your saying. I just don't see any cat of a similar size decapitating another cat. I don't actually see any feral cat killing another cat. Cats avoid each other if possible as it good survival technique. There is easier prey for a feral cat, rodents etc. It is more likely humans (as you suggested) or larger animals. A lot of people dislike cats and to decapitate indicates maliciousness born out of hatred.
I can't understand all the comments from people who say it's a "natural act" when talking about cat's excreting where they like when they like. It might be "natural" in the sense that it's a necessary bodily function, but, in this world it's survival of the fittest. So, if dog owners have to keep they're pets leashed and properly controlled so should cat owners. Just allowing them to roam and not expect them to get hurt is ridiculous. If I had a domestic hippopotomous and it mauled your cat, then by your logic, this is just a "natural act". If I just so happen to have a bowl of antifreeze laid out in my garden, then that too could be described as a "natural" act. I'm not going to make my garden a cat safe zone, it's up to the owners to keep them safe. It's unfair that they should be allowed to roam freely and do as they please.
I'm not going to maliciously go out of my way to hurt a cat, but, by the same token, if a cat wanders into my garage uninvited(which they do) and ingests something it shouldn't, then i won't lose any sleep over it, as it ain't my fricking responsibility to ensure the safety of someone elses pet.
Bottom line, if you want your cat to be safe, look after it yourself, there are a lot of sick fucks out there who would love to those annoying bastards eaten from the inside out by ***insert poison here***
Hi, I agree with you in that the responsibility lies with us, people to ensure our cats are safe and that they do not irritate other people. But if people are irresponsible do we punish the cat (by hurting the cat) or do we punish the people?
Interesting point, but responsibility must lie with the owner surely?! And therefore, punishment should lie firmly on the owners shoulders.
If an animal is prone to ingest ANYTHING at all because it knows no difference (say, between anti-freeze and water) then the owners are the foolish ones for letting them roam free and blissfully unaware of the dangers in the big ba world. We keep a tight leash on our chldren for their own safety(I hope!) so why not our animals?!
Responsibility and culpability are with the owner, because the cat knows no better and it's the non-cat owner who has NO responsibility to cat proofing their world.
Yes, responsibility lies with the people, the owner. This is what I meant. Therefore if punishment for any irritation is due it should be directed at the person (the human) not the cat. If we put poison down we are punishing the cat and, yes, the responsibility for injury to the cat ultimately rests with the owner of the cat and secondarily with the person administering the poison. The person who puts down poison has committed a serious criminal offense and will probably be imprisoned on conviction. The irresponsible owner has simply committed a moral wrong but no crime.
Hmmm, I accept what your saying, but thats assuming that a cat has been maliciously poisoned. In that instance, then the poisoner is much more to blame then the owner, however, if it's not malicious, then it's all down to the owner. 100%.
Hi, Thanks for the comment. We agree. It is nice to get to agreement.
In the UK it would appear that cats are an introduced predator.To me the natural wildlife is of far greater importance than the domestic cat. Laws protecting cats were originally formulated in the 20's. The UK domestic cat population now exceeds 9 million and whilst I would never poison any animal, I dearly wish that the law would make cat owners responsible for the actions of their pets. And if I don't want next doors cat in my garden , I should have that right.Most cat owners that i know don't give a fig about the natural environment and just want a pet that requires minimal work and are happy to excuse the anti social actions of their pet with the banal statement "but thats what cats do"
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Yes, that is probably correct. In reference to the title of the article that is a supporting argument for not poisoning a cat. Thanks for the comment. It is the irresponsible people who need to be punished and/or educated.
I am a first time owner of a rescue kitten. He is now 8 months old. We adore him, he has a wonderful personality and makes us happy every single day. He is an indoor only cat due to a few reasons;
1. He has a pink nose and here in Australia you have to protect against the sun as much as possible, 2. We do not want him terrorising the wild birds who we and he love to listen to, 3. We do not want him running under a car and being killed,
4. We do not want him becoming a nuisance to neighbours, other cat owners, or keen gardeners.
I feel we are responsible cat owners.
We have a harness and leash for him which we use to take him for walks in our garden every day after the sun has gone down. This way he gets outside time everyday, which he loves, and we can control where he goes and what he does.
Perhaps we need to start changing the way that we care for our cats and care for them like we do our dogs. They are our pets and very precious to us. We wouldn't let our dogs roam the streets, why should we let our cats. By being responsible in this way, our cats wouldn’t upset people and less time would be spent on talking about evil things like poisoning other living things.
Hi, My response to the last comment. Thanks for a wise comment. I think in days gone by we could and did let cats roam away from our homes. It was completely normal in the UK and probably across most of the world. But times have changed with higher human and cat populations which can cause friction and does result in more cases of irresponsible ownership. I think the modern way to care for a cat is as you describe, full time indoors but ideally with a large enclosure outside. That is an ideal and if we all did that (or not have a cat) there would be no "cat problems" whatsoever.
I've recently been keeping a kitten,which is about 3 months old. Since then it has been attacked (and at one time nearly killed) by a stray cat {male cat i suspect). Twice i've had to administer antibiotics. The stray cat visits us every night and however much i try to scare it away or throw something at it it just keeps on coming back to haunt my poor little kitten. I hate to do this but it seems i'm left with little choice but to poison the feline invader. If there's anyone who has a better idea on how to tackle this problem i'd love to hear it. And please don't ask me to wait everynight to devise something to trap the bastard, i'm a very busy person.
Hi, response to last comment (thanks for the comment). Well first it will be a crime. Second you may poison the wrong cat. Third the stray cat has just as much right to live as your cat.
Would it be possible to make your cat an indoor cat and keep the stray out? I presume it is coming inside. Why is the stray turning up? For food through a cat flap? If you keep the stray away long enough by shutting the cat flap, it might go elsewhere and in the meanwhile your kitten will become an adult and probably see the stray off all being well.
The stray is not coming around to attack your kitten. The kitten just happens to be there. It is coming for food it seems.
i bought a cat trap and this is slowly working. i don't kill them i take them to the pound. years ago we used to catch the ferral mongrels and take them out and shoot them. i would still do this if i still had a shooters license.
I choose not to have a cat (or dog) because I have children and want a clean home AND garden.
I am sick to seath of finding shit in my garden from cats.
Its OK blaming owners of cats however, you cannot train a cat like you can a dog. A cat IS a wild animal by nature and should be banned from being pets.
I don't give a shit about laws. If I find an intruder on my land - two legs or four - it or they will be 'dismissed'.
Cat owners know full well when they own a cat that they will be letting it out in the evenings to shit everywhere and anywhere except their own back yard.
I place cat owners on the same selfish level as smokers - who also like inflicting their 'shit' (smoke) on others.
To Sabrina....
Why the hell should I spend money on cat repellents? How about (you) cat owners being forced by law to pay for deterrents to their neighbours (upto 7 doors either side of their own)?
Then we might get a bit of peace to which you refer. The fact remains that 99% of cat owners are selfish and couldn't give a toss about their neighbours. THAT IS A FACT and the truth hurts.
I have started putting the cat shit on the doorstep of the person I believe to be causing most of us distress in this street. They have no less than THREE wretched cats.
Let him clear it up and see how we feel about doing it on a daily basis.
And just watch all the cat sympathisers here call me 'disgusting'.
Yes, precisely, isn't it just.
Hi,
Yet again i have gone to cut my lawn and had to pick up cat turds from my next door neighbours 3 cats,I had 2 whole nappy bag full after only doing it the day before yesterday,My 2 yr old boy came in from my garden with a hand full of shit saying ewww mummy phwoar....I am so pissed off with it now,they spray up my back door and all my sons clothes,I left clothes on the clothes horse drying and they pissed all up them,which i may add were my newborn babies clothes on them.
They sit on our car which is now scrathed and just cost us a thousand pund to get resprayed and the also scratch at our tyres,ive had a word with my neighbour about keeping them in,My brother has an air rifle so im seriously considering either poisoning them or shooting them,Im at my wits end.
they have my rubish out all the time,all they do is scream and shag all times of the day and night.What else can i do,Ive spent a fortune on cat repelents which dont work.I cant even have flower beds and pots no more coz all they do is dig and shit in them :(
Please resist hurting the cats. It is not their fault. And if you kill them what is stopping your irresponsible neighbour getting more cats or he might call the police. Remember, you will be committing a crime that is punishable by a fine of £20,000 and/or 51 weeks in prison (a max.)in the UK. You sound English. Are you in the UK? The law is similar in the USA and other European countries (old Europe that is).
You will lose the high ground. Get the neighbor but not with a rifle!
Are you in a leasehold property? If you are you could sue under the lease, no question. Freehold is harder but please answer this question.
I am in Australia and it seems we have the same trouble here you have everywhere else. I have been troubled greatly in the past by cats pooping in my potted plants, my garden and spraying their vile smelling odour on my front door. This is what I do. I have an RSPCA approved live cat trap that I only put out during the hours of darkness. When I catch a cat (all have had collars so far) I attach an anonymous note written in permanent marker on a plastic tab to its collar telling the owner I am sick of it in my yard etc etc and if I catch it again I will kill it. In the past 3 years that I have been at this house I have killed 14 cats. Dont like it? Sue me!!!!
To the person who made the last comment: It is possible that your neighbours know you who you are, meaning the person who leaves notes on cats. And it is also possible that one of those people will visit this site and webpage. It is also possible that the RSPCA know who you are.
On the basis that we can find you we have an admission from you that you have probably committed a crime and I will personally do my best to see you punished to the maximum for it.
Message to all visitors: If you recognise this obnoxious person please leave a message saying exactly where you are and I will then file a complaint to the local police and RSPCA.
Simple solution - keep your stinking cats out of other peoples homes. I gave them all one warning, if the owners are too stupid to heed it thats their problem. All cats were quickly euthanased - a bullet in the back of the head does that. Shame you cant do the same to the inconsiderate owners who have no respect for the rights of others. And FYI, my tally of catches in a bit over 3 years is 41 with only 14 repeat offenders so a lot of people got the message. Rarely see a cat around my place now so at least my method works which is a hellava lot better success rate than your posturing.
I would be almost certain that you stink a hell of a lot more than any cat and I would love to see you put away. Maybe the police know about you and accept it! People like you disgust me. The problem is not the cat you horrible person but the people. Why don't you deal with that properly and decently? I guess dealing the problem (any problem) properly and decently is beyond you. People like you make the world a lot worse.
You know I really sympathise with the chap from Australia. I know how impossible it is to get cat (and some dog for that matter)owners to ensure their animals arent a nuisance to others. I am terribly frustrated where I live with the antics of other peoples cats. I have done letterbox drops of messages all around my home but there has been no improvement. The Police just laugh at me. The RSPCA give me all sorts of suggestions like pepper etc but this only inconveniences my 2 cats and has little or no effect anyway. And after all, why should it be up to me? At least the fellow from Australia gives the owners of the nuisance animals a fair warning and lets face it, if they ignore the warning (seems that a large percentage do "get the message" though) and lose their cat they probably werent fit to have a pet anyway. So, in summary - while I would not take the action he has I can understand why he does what he chooses to do.
I personally think the Aussie chap has the right idea.
I live just out of Central London and the neighbors cats are forever defecating all around my House. Because of this my attitude toward all cats has changed to - The only good Cat, is a Half Dead and Dieing Cat!!!
In the state of South Australia it is a crime and ill treatment of an animal carries a maximum penalty of $20,000 or four years imprisonment. It is no good saying you sympathise. If you hurt cats you do nothing to resolve the problem and hurt an innocent animal.
It is simply uncivilized to do what you suggest and what this moron does. If someone comes forward I will see to it that he is investigated. Of course he could well be a policeman! Probably is. It is the kind of thing that someone in the police force would do.
Notice how 'Freddie Fox' only constructive answer is threatening people with the law.
Nobody will be able to prove whose doing it anyway.
How many times do you see notices pinned on lamp-posts; 'Missing Cat'???? They are not missing, they have been soundly removed from the neighbourhood.
At the end of the day, there is not another hated animal than the bog-standard moggy - and it all comes down to garden mess.
The RSPCA, Cats Protection League, etc. need to clean up their act and tell owners that their cat is 'at risk' if you don't control it.
The new sling (CATapult) with night-site is working a treat!
Here, kitty-kitty!
HI! I am from Portugal and I will kill the cat in my backyard! The cat have destroyed my crops and is very noisy! Perhaps with paracetamol, which was i have seen on the web! I tried so far, poison for rats and cockroaches but failed! The repellents are not too! Tomorrow I will see if this fing have worked to finally return to my quiet! If it is forbidden to kill animals is also forbidden invasion of property and also i have the right to rest at home and can sleep a peaceful night! Goodbye!
Hello People, Aussie "chap" here again. Y'know, I really dont WANT to kill peoples pets. I would much rather the owners ensured the cats were properly taken care of so that they would not be a nuisance to others - as someone else so correctly put it, it is not up to us to cat proof our properties. Now, Im sure most here are people just like that and I have no argument with you, its the irresponsible element I have no time for. And now that I have removed the nuisance animals from the area I am quite happy and dont expect to deploy my trap for a while or until another nuisance cat appears. Also, I cant let Freddie (Michael?) Fox's comments go unchallenged either. To slur the Police as he did, stating I was probably a policeman because it was the sort of thing they do is quite stupid. No more stupid or insulting than me saying that because Freddie is a middle aged male cat owner he must be a raging pillowbiter - see how silly my comment is? Well, no more than his. And I am not a cop for what that is worth. And to set the record even straighter Freddy - I have not killed 41 cats as your headline so erroneously stated, I have killed 14. I have CAUGHT 41 - remember I wrote and attached nasty notes to their owners to their collars and released them? The 14 were "second time offenders" - so at least 27 owners woke up to themselves.
All in all it seems this is a very emotive issue. I invite you to enjoy your pets all you like and you may do so with my best wishes. Its only when your inconsideration impacts on my enjoyment of my property that I will not tolerate it and WILL take the action I have!
Cheers
To the last 2 comments. You are misguided arseh*les. You are killing the messenger not the perpetrator. Wake up and do the proper thing. Or at least think about it. Idiots like you reinforce my beliefs about the human race -- it sucks.
We live in the Midlands and our 2 cats are either indoors or when outside are in a purpose built run. Our very young children cant play in their sandpit though until my wife or I sift it for cat turds. I got a cat trap and caught the offenders one by one. I would hide them in the shrubbery beside the garden shed and hose them down a dozen or so times over the course of a day. Then I would douse them in pepper while still wet and let them go in the early eveing when hopefully their owners would be home to see them (actually I now wish I had thought of our "Ozzie Mates" caper of sticking a nasty note on the collar - the owners really need a reality check!) and you should see how fast they go! Unfortunately a couple didnt learn and returned after a time (not real smart are they?) so some anti freeze in the garden shed took care of that problem. Sorry if that offends.
Hi! I have a problem with two un-neutered Tom cats. They Killed our young female cat, who was a totally non aggressive animal, a short while ago, tore her throat out. Now they are coming back and trying the same thing on my other cats. Trapping doesn't work as, A. it's illegal, and B. these cats work as a pair and are too canny to enter a trap( I've tried). I have contacted animal control in my area and their policy seems to be, No policy. They will not do Anything about these cats, except send a council vehicle around to drive around and look for them during the day. No traps, No baits, and a day time drive by is useless as these cats only emerge late at night. I may be speaking from emotion, but I do not want any other of my animals murdered by these vicious mongrels. I saw them attempting to kill a cat across the road the other day also. So I'm sorry all of you as I also am an animal lover, but these cats ARE going to die! Poison is proberbly the best method, although I do not wish to harm any other animals. I would smash their heads in if I could get close enough. Sorry if I offend anyone's sensibilities, if anyone has any other suggestions please tell me. Otherwise I will have to take care of this in the most efficient manner I can. Anon
i hate feral cats they cause disease kill them all
I live in Birmingham and I have made it my lifes mission to rid the earth of as many of these vile animals as possible. I have 2 traps but I cant shoot them like our Aussie mate as I dont have a gun (would be a bit risky firing a gun at my place anyway) so I put a box over the trap and gas the sodding animals with my car exhaust in the garage. I have found that you MUST use a stone cold engine though as a warm engine does not produce enough carbon monoxide - something to do with the catalytic converter apparently. Only takes a minute or two and it is quite effective. I am not nearly "up there" with your total Oz but I havent been going for very long either. Hey Mate - wanna have a contest - bet I can get more by Christmas than you? On your honour mate - no cheating with numbers OK? Losers sends the winner a six pack of his choice - if I win I want a six pack of Boags Premium Lager. Drank a lot of that when I was over there a few years ago - best beer in the world. How about it mate? Phil.
In the uk cats kill over 50,000,000
of our native songbirds every twelve months. No surprise then that our bird population is in decline. You can't call yourself an animal lover if you allow your cat to roam freely.
Fantastic blog. I don't own any pets but get plagued by the neighbours cats (and very very occasionally, dogs), but mostly just cats.
My current count is about 3 turds a week on my lawns (I vote for a measure we can use - turds-per-week - so I have 3 tpw) but it used to be about 10 tpw. I got fed up with it, especially when I went to take my bins out at **night** a few months ago and stood in a lot then BROUGHT IT BACK WET AND STINKING INTO THE HOUSE ON MY SHOE AND NEARLY ONTO MY **NEWLY FITTED** (I KID YOU NOT) CARPETS. Fortunately it only ruined my 1 day old outside front and inner door mats, (£10), which required I dispose of them and the brush I needed to get it off my shoes (about £2.50). Now I just scoop the turds with a spade whenever I see them and dump it in the gardens of the cat owners whose cats I know wander my gardens (and who I've seen doing it). I KNOW their kids have trodden in it at least once AND HAVE ALSO BROUGHT IT INTO THEIR HOUSE (hohoho you should have heard the mother's blue language!), so satisfying and I feel I have got my £12.50 back - kids are great! I could never poison a cat as some have suggested, I can see why some people do, because I've had even worse experiences... at a house I used to live at my previous gf had a *magnetic* cat flap fitted for her cat. On Xmas Eve when the roast was being defrosted and prepared overnight a neighbourhood cat broke in through the flap (breaking the magnetic lock in the process - so used some force), pulled the blood stained red meat off the plate on the counter (it was wrapped in string), dragged it across two blue carpets and abandoned it trying to lift it up to the height of the flap. There was no way the roast would have fitted anyway, it was bigger than a cat or the flap. I know it wasn't her cat since I caught the b*stard trying to lift it backwards out of the £20 magnetic cat flap it had broken, it f*ckin knew it was doing wrongand shouldn't have been in our house when it saw me - it gave me the "oh sh*t I've been caught" stare (you know the one) for a second to see what I'd do - then bolted. The damage to the carpet was mostly repairable, but not something you want to do on Christmas day, and then having to serve the family -both sets of parents- microwaved fish instead (since nowhere was open) for the Christmas meal... I was... annoyed and felt like I could throttle that cat on sight. Oh and finally - a cat(or cats?) have also decided recently to damage the bonnet of my new car by jumping off a nearby fence onto it and leaving scratch marks and the odd paw "ping" dent (its jet black). So yes, I have lots of reasons to be annoyed. Now if you want to quote law to me, quote something useful that I can use to sue the asses of these cat owners for (had it been a human) attempted theft, damage to private property, public indecency, and littering (or fouling), that won't be laughed at by the ever ineffectual UK police or UK "justice" system. People feel the need to hurt cats because the law doesn't help them, the victims. As a side note for other readers (if this is posted :) ) I keep my calm because I have to, I'm a 20 something and I have high blood pressure and have been told not to stress over "little things" so I've given up caring to an extent, and boy did it take a lot of work to get out of that mindset with cats! Just chill.... it isn't worth it! :)
Hey, surely not? It cant possibly be ...... Pommy Phil from Birmingham, hates cats, was in Oz a few years ago, drinks Boags (worlds best beer!)..... wasnt the same Phil I shared a camp (and a Boags) with on the Coopers at Innamincka 2 years ago in Sept? Pommy Phil went on to the Birdsville Races? Was travelling with Simon and Tracey, brother and sister? Simon & Tracey went back to the UK late in 07. Tracey is back here now, says she is staying permanently. How one in a billion if you are the same Phil! Still, if not - sure Phil, lets see how many of the varmints we can get rid of. I have decided that any cat that is not on someones lounge chair is feral and should be removed from the gene pool. Start counting now OK? How many have you got by the way? Anyone else want a piece of this action? The more the merrier! Ed.
Hey Guys, Dougall from New Zealand here - if you guys want to have a contest, can I get in on it? I bet I could get more cats than you 2 put together. The rotten things are all over the place here and I reckon I could get 10-15 a week. We shoot them here. Put out milk for them and shoot them from the bedroom window. Great way to have fun on Saturday night after the rugby game on TV. Some of my videos and my IR sighting system is on uTube. I dont have a patent on it so if you want to copy it and plug a few varmints be my guest.
All cats must die
Agreed. I'm in Australia too... all my friends and outdoor areas smell like cat pee and they don't have cats. We have to buy citronella oil, 'off for dogs and cats' powder, pepper jars - for what? For owners that do not take responsibility of their pets? Hey it's in my back yard - and our patio and outdoor furniture constantly smells like cat piss. Owners do not take responsibilities - why? because they are not shitting nor peeing in their backyards! - but in ours.... Councils and police do not care for such petty matters. Pet owners need to take responsibility of their pets. For all the cat lovers out there - if you don't agree with the other anonymous comments below - what would YOU recommend for us to do? How much time and money should we spend on removing cat shit and cat piss from our backyard? Buying products for cat repellent? Printing and sending out letters in our area about stray cats? Go on put a figure on it. 2 hours and $10 per week? Once you have come up with that - go to your local council / governor / representative and ask them to create a subsidy from tax payers to fund the 'save the stray cats' so that every household can get a 'cat repellent' subsidy.... Tell me now who should be responsible?
I love cats, they make great compost. Just bury them under you compost heap and they disappear after 2 months or so. My compost is just amazing in the veggie garden. Fantastic tomatoes. Funny thing is that I give the veggies to the neighbours who used to own the cats and they thank me for the fantastic fresh produce. How ironic.
Anyway, down to business, get a possum trap and a 200 litre drum (44 gallon), bait the trap with sardines or pilchards, catch the offending moggie and put the trap (including pussy) into your drum of water, then 5 minutes later you have a compost filler.
I cleaned out an entire suburb of cats (estimate about 100) in just 2 years, and fed the families of the previous owners with lovely fresh vegetables made with cat-compost.
Not cruelty, not mean, not nasty, not bad behaviour. just a sensible solution to an urban problem.
I kinda feel sorry for the cats, its not really their fault, I would actually prefer to bury the irresponsible owners instead, but that's 20 odd years in jail. So, im not going to do that. BUT the cats, Oooohhh look out, if it wanders through my backyard looking for somewhere to take a poop, heheh , its compost.
You know, all you idiots who are joyously killing cats are doing this to express your anger by killing innocent animals. You are morons frankly. And you area criminals too. You have no compassion or sensitivity or understanding. You're the kind of people that make the world worse and you make me sick.
I assist a gamekeeper on a small estate not far from where I live to keep pests under control. We go out lamping quite a bit during the off season and it is surprising how many cats we shoot. On this 1300 acre estate, not far from a large population centre and surrounded by many small "toy" estates we have shot and trapped between 80 and 140 cats a year over the last 11 years with the numbers increasing each year. Some are certainly feral, but a surprising number (more than half) have collars, even name/phone tags. All carcases are discretely disposed of naturally, and before you jump down my throat we cant tell what is feral and what is "domestic" until after it has been shot. Begs the question really "What is your cat doing out hunting far from home at night?" In addition to what we get lamping at night, the gamekeeper tells me it is quite normal for him to shoot a cat or two each week during the day when he is out checking on his poults. I think you people have no idea what a destructive animal an average cat is - even the most domesticated moggy still has the hunting instinct just below the surface, to come to the fore at every opportunity. And remember - EVERY feral cat we shoot came from the cats of some irresponsible owner/s. Britains rapidly declining smaller birds/wildlife is not thanking you - some of you who are so outraged should consider that next time someone on this blog outs themselves as a city based "exterminator". You may not like what they do but in the overall scheme of things, paradoxically, they are doing the environment a real service. And, by the way, this is not just a UK problem but worldwide. At least in the western world anyway, everywhere else particularly in Asia they simply eat them.
Reading these comments is just amazing that people can pick and choose which animals they like,saying i hate cats because they kill other animals is unbelievable.You can't pick and choose which animal you like thats like me saying i'll shoot all your dogs because they chase cats.
Plus the fact the way you are willing to kill these animals should be done to you if you are found
One thing is killing an animal because it is a pest and so on,but to do so in such a way as to cause it pain,what can you say,none of you would like antifreeze slipping in your tea so if you are going to do this do it the none cruel way at least,and why not go and tell the owners!
This is a GREAT blog. Really appreciate the ideas here. I'm just a beginner, so far only three adult cats and a couple of newly born dropped in the garden. None of them were good swimmers.
Have you noticed there are two types of posts here?
1. Intelligent and reasoned posts from cat haters offering valuable hints and tips.
2. Moronic threatening posts from the "lovers", who repeat themselves over and over.
I think we can deduce that cats are owned by selfish morons with personality disorders, who strangely think their right to inflict cats on us takes precedent over our right to live in a cat free world.
Antifreeze eh? Just off to buy a bottle. Only problem is that I will not be able to chalk up definite kills.
Phil from Birmingham you are a genius! I borrowed a cat trap and caught the neighbours cat that has been such a nusiance for so long despite a few residents having words with the offending moronic owner. Anyway, I positioned a large cardboard box over the trap (with soon to be deceased resident inside) and strategically cut an exhaust pipe sized hole in the cardboard - slid the hole over the protruding pipe, started the car and wonder of wonders - we dont have an annoying cat around here anymore! I didnt have a compost heap either until now but thats another GREAT idea I got from this site! I wonder if the clown next door would like some tomatoes next spring? There is now quite a demand for my trap, wish they werent so expensive - perhaps we should start a "co-operative", buy in bulk and share the joy around? Thank you one and all.
Every home should have a saucer of anti freeze on the front and back porches shouldn't it?
Anti freeze sounds like it causes a lot of distress and may be quite cruel. Is there anything else that is readily available that is quicker and more humane? After all, I just want to get rid of them, not cause them any suffering.
The chap in Australia instead of taking your actions out on the poor defenceless cat why not grow a bit of bollox and confront the owner your obviously not capable too. Hope you get a big buzz of doing this if its the only way you can make yourself feel powerful well done mate very hard.
philip philip come on m8 got nothing better to do than gas cats out maybe get a gf. if i hear of u gasing anymore out i will get my very own philip to teach u a lesson. PHILIP MITCHELL!!
I love this blog!! I'm off to start racking up confirmed kills!!
You have Philip Mitchell from God only knows where threatening a "Phil from Birmingham". Are you for real? What are you going to do - go to Birmingham and beat up every guy called Phil? Duh! He must be laughing himself silly!
laughing himself silly dont think so our mate philip from birmingham does not wanna mess with philip mitchell and as for beaten up every gut called philip in birmingham NOPE not gonna do tht there will only be one sad sad idiot that likes poisoning cats tht fits our discription.
Well Phil Mitchell, you better hope you "teach lessons" better than you spell or is your poor grammar from the booze you had to drink to work up the courage to anonymously threaten an anonymous blogger? This blog is a hoot - on one hand you have the cat haters happily going around ridding the world of what they see as evil incarnate - and not being backward in coming forward to tell all and sundry how they do it. Then you have the lovers on the other hand frothing at the mouth while trying to think of even more insulting things to say about them! Shame my cat cant read really.....!!!
Says the guy who leaves as Anonymous Contradiction my friend, not so clever after all. Nows whos frothing at the mousth froth boy.
I grew up with cats--I had over 50 of them, roaming free in the midwest of America--a regular 'cat nirvana', a cat Eden. I actually love cats, but I HATE cat shit--just like everyone else out there who lets their cats roam free, so they don't have to scoop it all up.
However, since I became an adult, i.e. "grew up" I realized a few things about our cute, cuddly little 'friends'
1) they kill song birds, and sparrows proliferate; they kill wild game twice their size, and leave it lay--seldom eating the whole kill.
2) their shit is toxic--and only an experienced composter can compost it
3) cat owners by and large are immature malcontents who hide their passive'aggressive tendencies and emotions in guise of animals that are entirely under their control
4) they are NOT human-they are a parasitic mammal.
and mostly:
As I research " cat poison" here in cyberspace, I realize that I am at my wits end dealing with your favorite cute cuddly non-emotive mammal shitting in my yard.
I MEAN, IF CATS ARE SO DARNED FUN, CUTE, HUMAN LIKE ETC--WHY DON'T YOU TRAIN THEM TO STOP SHITTING IN MY YARD? WHY DOESN'T YOUR BOOTSY/PATCHES'TIGGER/ETC. TRAIN ITSELF TO SHIT IN YOUR YARD?
BETTER YET, IF THE CAT OWNERS ARE HUMAN, WHY DON'T YOU FORM A COLLECTIVE CAT SHIT CLEANUP CREW?
I mean, it could be a non-profit agency--which fits the cat owner mindset so well--and then you could invest YOUR TIME in picking up those fresh stinkbombs that your cat is laying under my porch.
Maybe you guys can all get together and form a cat shit owners for social responsibility circle, and drum the turds away? Better yet, how about a new cat-shit collection tax--AND you PAY IT?
But I am sooooo done stepping in your cats shit--because you are too irresponsible to keep it indoors, or for that matter get the damned spraying bastards fixed.
And thanks for the tips about the poisons and anti-freeze! My little saucers go out tonight.
But you can betcha' my next cat will stay indoors--where it belongs, all nice and cute and spayed--so that MY SHIT doesn't become YOUR SHIT.
Message to Philip Mitchell from Phil from Birmingham. Listen carefully you moron - I'll only use little words and type VERY slowly so you should be able to read this ...... I have only ever made ONE previous post. Got that Philip? So whoever you are going off your tiny brain at - it isnt me. You goose! And whoever it was said I must be laughing myself silly at poor Phillip Mitchell is right. You know what I think upsets idiots like Philip the most? - the fact that the cat haters of this world are efficiently going about removing vast numbers of nuisance cats from various places around the world and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. Hey Philip, where do you live, might come and introduce myself to your cat? Dont bother putting up "Lost Cat" posters on lamp posts :-) Phil.
Brummie Philip Philip Philip do you know how incredibly hard you must be going on thinking your some kind of badman with your little saucers outside your door. the weird funny thing is i stumbled upon this blog so very randomly and got quite annoyed with what i read. however you must have had so much hatred for these animals you searched how to kill them. Come on my friend honestly have you nothing else to do. we all know who your sexing tonight handyman.
BTW, this isn't Philip--check the IP--this is another guy ouit here in the world who abhors cat shit on his shoes--tracked into my house, and possibly dispersing disease, because cat 'lovers' refuse to take the responsibility of keeping the cat shit indoors.
Believe it or not, as I said, the immature, cuddly wuddly me likes cats a whole lot. The responsible, practical adult says "fuck that" when it comes to stepping in shit.
As for 'sexing' anything, maybe you 'cat lovers' who refuse to get your 'lovers' spayed and neutered should reconsider serious adult things like:
1) population density
2) population density of cat lovers-vs- adults
3)population density of songbirds, and other wild game( which is infinitely more fascinating to watch than cats)+ catlovers = natural species decline = proliferation of mosquitoes, fly's, spiders, etc.
4) growing up and taking responsibility, cleaning your cat shit, before I have to clean my neighborhood of excess cats.
http://library.fws.gov/Bird_Publications/songbrd.html
I know your not Philip but if you didnt notice after you had your tantrum Philip left a message so thats what i responded to. So whoever your speaking to i dont know.
Fair enough--so, speaking to the people who condone cat's shitting on my lawn is a 'tantrum'?
Well, that one way dialogue and attitude fully legitimizes my anti-freeze saucers posted at every corner of my yard. You juyst can't talk in adult language to cat "lovers".
Hey catmatixxx so very true. The warm and fuzzy brigade are willing to let us have any opinion we like as long as it is the same as theirs. They seem to think when it comes to cat spray around our houses, crap in our pot plants and gardens and howling screeching fights outside our bedroom windows at night we should just put up with it because THEY love cats!! Selfish pricks one and all! Well, Im entitled NOT to have to suffer that and if the owners cant/wont take care of the problem they have no right to complain if we do. There is a very simple solution to this y'know - instead of them ranting at us, sort out the inconsiderate owners. They are the ones who cause this so get in their ear you sanctimonious righteous shits. Sort out the problem at the source and there is no reason for us to do what we do - or cant you get around something so simple? Too simple for their narrow minds to encompass I reckon. I am about to join you guys - catmattixxx, the Ozzie, Birmingham Phil, Dougall and the Portugese fella and you others who wish to stay anon and wont stand for it. I just ordered a trap and next week when it gets here I'll sort out my own problems thanks. I'll try the car exhaust method as I dont want them to suffer needlessly and I estimate I have about 4 problem cats to "relocate". Let you know as I get them. Michael.
I think they might just have the right to complain if your killing there pet.When you try the car exhaust method mate might you just be able to stick your ugly mug up it as well.Yeh and as you said sort out the owners instead go and knock on their MY door, but come on you fussy twat when a cat shits in your garden it burys it because in that department their very clean animals. I think all you guys philip, mikey, catimaxx, are all gettin mixed up with dogs. But yeh as you sugested go and complain to the owners you fussy little sperm cells. grab your bollox and do it then you might just get round the problem without breaking the law. But then again all you cat Haters all one minded think what you do is perfectly ok, or is it easier to dodge the human being who can stand up for themselves thought so.
I so wish cat owners would look after their pets... cat owners are LAZY! they want a pet they don't need to look after and which will go off and do it's own thing. I am now contemplating killing a cat... it shits all over my vegetable patch, pisses all over my young children's toys and now has started getting into the house anyway it can!!! any scrap of food left and it's at it!!! just now my daughters finished their lunch.. I took them in the next room to get them ready for bed only to find the bloody thing had got in again and was licking plates and I have had to throw the food that was waiting for my husband as god knows who germs that pest has! I've tried hitting it with a brown but it's too fast for me....I've tried every other thing to get rid of it and it failed... Imade it perfectly clear it's not welcome but it still comes back... Cats don't belong in this country and CERTAINLY not at the level there are!! It's not natural!
My trap arrived 2 days ago and claimed its first victim last night. Gassing with a stone cold car exhaust is so quick, they just ever so gently go to sleep and dont wake up. Much more preferable to antifreeze which must be distressing and painful. Remember people, just because the cat is a pain in the ass doesnt mean cruelty is an acceptable method of disposal. It's not a cats fault its a cat! I did a letterbox drop of notes all around my place advising there were a few problem cats around and they would be destroyed if their owners didnt take more responsibility for them. I also stuck a few posters up on light poles and what a hoo-hah that caused! Local TV even ran it so whoever owns the cat in the bottom of my garbage bin got a fair warning. And a message to the guy who gets SO upset at these methods (Philip Mitchell??) - I went to the owner of one nuisance cat a year ago and tried to be polite but he went mental. A month later my car got spray painted. So I choose to do it this way. Michael.
Not a cat's fault it is a cat?Come on people, I love house cats, but I will exterminate strays in the same manner I would rats, mice, roaches, etc. Why? Because they are pests and not welcome on my property. They are filthy disease carrying vermin, and they multiply like jackrabbits. I am not obligated to spend my hard-earned money to dispose of them in a humane fashion. I don't hate them, but I do recognise a pestilence when I see one. I don't care how innocent you think the cat is. The cows, chicken, fish, baby sheep and deer that we eat are just as nnocent and NOT diseased filth. As a cat lover, you must be able to mentally separate those filthy vermin from your sweet kitty. They are not the same. All these people who are disgusted.... their house probably smells terrible and they sleep with fleas.
Also, when they are entrenched under your house, put meat on a fishing pole with a treble hook, cast it under the house, and reel it slowly. When you feel a nibble, set that hook! When you drag them out, a baseball bat does the trick. VERY humane. They never learn either, if there are more, wait five minutes and recast, you will get the same results.
Where do you buy a trap and can you tell me more about how you gas them?
Just google "cat traps" and you'll get heaps of hits no matter what country you are in. The best are wire, about 24"x12"x12" with a door that locks when it closes. Best by far are the ones with a "treadle" trigger mechanism. Cost about 40 pounds. Use sardines as bait and put them behind the treadle so the cat has to step on it to get at them. To gas - get a cardboard box that easily covers the whole trap. Seal any open seams with tape and put a brick on top of the box to hold it steady. Make a cardboard tube about 24" long that is a snug slide fit over your exhaust pipe. Cut a hole in the cardboard box the same diameter as the tube and slide it in. PLEASE!!! Use a STONE COLD ENGINE or you will cause the animal distress and you may not kill it humanely. Two minutes is all it takes - no struggles or thrashing about. They just go to sleep. If you want to give the obnoxious owner a second chance you could do what the Aussie fellow does and stick a nasty note to their collars warning the owners what will happen if you catch that particular cat again. Handle it gently and if you do see the same cat around ..... reset trap, it will be easy to catch a second time!
You not have anything better to do with 40 quid?
what r u bitching about he could have spent the 40 quid on antifreeze couldnt he? wouldnt that be much more indescriminate and cruel than trapping and gasing individual troublesome moggys.
I put another one down a few days ago. Only one or two problem cats left near my place now, then I can retire the trap - unless another one shows up. Michael.
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